When will something be done about intentional trains?

[Gavmazterj]

Volga, I feel as though I should report your post for presenting practical solutions to the issue at hand =D. I was wondering why after 60+ posts no one had brought up the idea of a pvp flag for low level characters in zones they have no business being in, so thank you. How difficult would it be to code that? Any thoughts, ye tireless trolls?

[soup]

Originally Posted by Volga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just tossin a few ideas for chewing on.

Take zones like SolB, LGuk and auto port anyone under level 15 to the entrance of the parent zone?

or

Take zones like SolB, LGuk and tag pvp flag to anyone under level 15 who enters so that the present player base can nip the problem in the bud

or

Adopt a hard stance against disruptive behavior and put everyone on notice.. you have 30-days to change your password etc.. From that point on, any account connected with the disruptive behavior (disruptive behavior to be defined by staff) may given a 7-day suspension with higher time allotments for repeat offenders. This would apply to all accounts linked

and

by default block proxy connections to the game server with the ability to white list specific accounts who could apply for an exception.

Just ideas ...

V

I think a great fix would be to make it so mobs in these dungeons can summon players who would con green to that mob. This way, you don't break any legitimate reason a low level might go there (friends letting you loot some no trade item, for example) but they would then just get instagibbed if they try to train.

Now, I have -no clue- if that would be an easy thing to code, or if it would require jumping through all kinds of programming hoops and be overly elaborate and not worth the effort.

[rioisk]

People get butthurt all the time in MMORPGS. I've seen a bunch of this in my time. However, when something is systematically wrong with a game you tend to see repeat offenses over and over and over and over because people are THAT angry.

Figure it out.

[chtulu]

*shrug* i don't know.

I'm assuming it would be easy to check their IP addresses and what not. See who shares the similar ID's that are recorded when they are logged in and delete both their main account and whatever accounts they use to train.

It would at least be a deterrence for people with high level characters to make a new account for the sake for grieving.

At least, that's how it was handled in SoD and a few other private emulator games i've played.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

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[chtulu]

sure, IP's can be changed with a proxy, but their are DNS and other identifiable features with their routers or whatever else they want to be hiding behind.

I'd like to bet 10 dollars that the people with the mind set of harassing people in such a primitive manner don't have the knowledge to go to lengths securing their anonymity anyways.

[Tronjer]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd like to bet 10 dollars that the people with the mind set of harassing people in such a primitive manner don't have the knowledge to go to lengths securing their anonymity anyways.

As far as I know ISP work with dynamic ip's. You can track down where somebody is coming from, but his ip changes every time he connects with the internet.

It's a pity that P99 is not allowed to charge a fee for activating and subscription. People would think twice before they get their payed accounts banned.

[Rogean]

And that's where the vast majority of you are wrong and when you scream fix it for something you are so ignorant about and then get angry at us for something you don't understand.

First, people do change IP Addresses to train. Other than that, there is no way to link someone to their main account.

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

The biggest disadvantage to this server being free is that we have no control over people simply making new accounts to grief with.

Then theres also proving that the train occured. You guys think this server is any worse than live? I still play live, and I can tell you, people get trained ALL the time. There is absolutely NO WAY for eqlive gm's to prove it other than catching someone in the act, or getting a /report of said person admitting to it, which we can't accept even on this server because /report's can be fabricated (Both on here AND on live.. why EQLive trusts them blindly is nothing short of stupidity on their part. I can incriminate someone on live just by faking a /report for something they never said.)

[chtulu]

Who cares if they are in the same house using the same router/ip address?

I'm pretty sure if a perma ban on someone's account was threatened, the other person would be more then happen to give his buddy in.

[chtulu]

Well, if absolutely nothing can be done, then I guess vigilante justice is the only other alternative!