Current Sky Schedule

[pasi]

We are only there to sell stuff that's rotting... at a very low price. Unfortunately, we don't always have every class on hand at our raids. I actually consider it a service to the community if people are able to get a Dark Cloak of the Sky for 20k.

[Splorf22]

Tortue: A member of TMO complaining about other guilds selling raid loot is beyond ridiculous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygE01sOhzz0 God I love that movie. Also we're happy to sell to you or anyone else but the min bid for Gorg drops is 15k which is pretty low already we think.

bizzum: let us know how things work out. You guys moving to Saturday would be great for us as we'd have a crack at the bees!

Dulas: 10 guilds puts us in a rough position because either someone has to go on a weekday morning or everyone has to go less than once a week which sucks because of the keycorpse mechanics.

I don't know how to ask this without being insulting but is your guild really capable of doing Sky? I just did a /who all Azure and you had 11 on of whom only one was over L55. I'm sure you'll have more on for raid nights but I am not at all sure 20 people with an average level of 55 can handle the Spiroc Lord. Assuming that you are indeed capable of clearing 5, a couple of possible solutions:

My understanding is that Rapture/BDA both go to Sky on both Monday and Friday (kind of like Tortue suggested hehe). They might be willing to give up one day just because thats an awful lot of Sky.

Full Circle I believe only does 1-5 and might be willing to team up with you if you could bring enough force that together you could do 1-8.

Europa is having trouble getting their raids together and might welcome some help (although they are in the morning obviously).

We had 10-12 last night and I would prefer 15-18ish so I don't mind taking a few (say 5ish) reasonably high-leveled players for the sake of server harmony. I just find having large groups of people (>20) to be a) a giant pain to organize. Sometimes I feel like being a raid leader is like herding cats, and that is with 15 players and b) I like doing content with a number of players such that we have a real chance to wipe if people fuck up too badly. At some point it just becomes a roflstomp.

I know none of those are great solutions from your perspective but as I said we are in a tough spot.

[jpeute]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tortue: A member of TMO complaining about other guilds selling raid loot is beyond ridiculous.

I guess u make a reference at TMO selling VP loot to the a-team...for me thats 2 different scenario and its def not the same thing...

VP loot are off dragons who spawn on a variance of 7 days +/- 48hours and on a competition raid scene.

Sky loot are on a 8h timer on a plane with an established rotation.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Swish

Here's a crazy concept, as people are worried about a new guild to the rotation not being able to handle it... how about offering 3-4 of the guild the chance to raid with existing guilds on the rotation? What they don't know they'll soon learn, and there's less worrying about stuff not being cleared as a result. It would be a nice goodwill gesture if it was made, right?

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't mind taking a few (say 5ish) reasonably high-leveled players for the sake of server harmony.

I think you guys saw that there were 9 guilds on the rotation already and came into this thread spoiling for a fight despite the fact that I've taken a basically conciliatory position this whole time. How about a little less hyperbole and a few more screenshots of Azure Guard gloriously downing the Spiroc Lord? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Tortue

I guess u make a reference at TMO selling VP loot to the a-team...for me thats 2 different scenario and its def not the same thing...

Look I am strongly against pixel rot, and I would much rather see items for sale then either rotting or sitting in a guild bank for months at a time. So I think we are both basically doing a good thing there. The reason everyone is laughing at your comment is that if you take the communistic view of 'encounters should go to people who will directly use the highest fraction of pixels' and apply it to your own guild you won't like the results much.

[Anichek]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My understanding is that Rapture/BDA both go to Sky on both Monday and Friday (kind of like Tortue suggested hehe). They might be willing to give up one day just because thats an awful lot of Sky.

We raid with Rapture because we enjoy their company....not because the numbers to complete the raids don't support either guild accomplishing full clears.

The last BDA Friday Skyday only had 1 or 2 Rapture on it, as an example. Open ended invitations/reciprocity, if you will.

Apologies that I can't offer a solution, I appreciate that this thread has been primarily civil, and think with all the brains crowdsourcing ideas something will come up that will work out!

[Jesseca]

Dulas: 10 guilds puts us in a rough position because either someone has to go on a weekday morning or everyone has to go less than once a week which sucks because of the keycorpse mechanics.

I don't know how to ask this without being insulting but is your guild really capable of doing Sky? I just did a /who all Azure and you had 11 on of whom only one was over L55. I'm sure you'll have more on for raid nights but I am not at all sure 20 people with an average level of 55 can handle the Spiroc Lord. Assuming that you are indeed capable of clearing 5, a couple of possible solutions:

First off.....I never said what you stated in the above quote that I said. Secondly....please if your going to respond then please know what your talking about.

Don't you worry if my guild can handle something or not. If i am requesting a slot it is because I feel we are ready for sky.

If Saturday night is open then we will give it a shot on Saturday night at 8pm est.

Please let me know if that is not the case....otherwise we will be ready to do sky then.

Thank you!

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Jesseca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off.....I never said what you stated in the above quote that I said. Secondly....please if your going to respond then please know what your talking about.

I wasn't quoting you. I was responding to 3 different people. So, right back at you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't you worry if my guild can handle something or not. If i am requesting a slot it is because I feel we are ready for sky.

I think you missed my point. You said "a shot at sky" and "ready for sky". Sky is 8 islands and I'm sure you can do at least some of them. If there was an open day somewhere no one would care, but with 9 guilds on the calender already someone would have to give up their slot, so killing the Spiroc Lord seems like the minimum bar. So what I was asking was "when you say sky do you mean five because by looking at your numbers/levels that seems pretty rough for you". I'm not saying you can't do it, just asking for clarification. If you reread my post I even gave you the benefit of the doubt.

Of course, if Ploktor is telling the truth then maybe there is an open slot, so maybe I was wrong about 9 guilds being in the rotation, but I don't know the details of what is going on with Europa.

[Spitty]

Uh...this is the guy that regularly does Sky with less than two groups.

He brought about a valid question in a neutral manner and you insinuate that he doesn't know what he's talking about.

You're either extremely defensive of your guild's actual capabilities, or you need to cultivate some diplomatic skills. Either way, good luck with both.

[Jesseca]

I don't know this guy and what hes capable of doing. I do know however he stated in a post that I said something that I never said. That is what I was referring to when I said " please know what your talking about ".

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Jesseca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know this guy and what hes capable of doing. I do know however he stated in a post that I said something that I never said. That is what I was referring to when I said " please know what your talking about ".

ive read his post over and over and no where does he state you said anything. Could you elaborate what he said you said? What you quoted is a response from him about the 10 guild situation in Sky and asking you if your sure your capable of doing Sky without him being a dick about it.