Senate fails the country again.

[Doors]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

name a country that doesn't have a long history of bloodshed.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

history of bloodshed.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

history

Saying the French and Indian wars is irrelevant to the history of the formation of Canada is kind of dumb. Either way we're completely off topic.

[Kagatob]

You said name a country that doesn't have a long history of bloodshed. You named a war caused by France that happened to be in Canada that ended after 9 years 250 years ago. Congrats on stretching long?

Where the fuck do you draw the line dude? Next you'll be blaming China for Pearl Harbor because the Japanese originally migrated from there. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Millburn]

Legit question here, does Iceland count? I hear they just got voted in as the friendliest country on the planet. Awww yeah.

[citizen1080]

Don't get me wrong...i have Canadian friends...as I live an hour from the border. And I snowboard up there as often as I can. BC is great...the rest of it....meh

[MrSparkle001]

Gun control is a lie. It's just feel good legislation.

And people are stupid:

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Southern California is stupid as fuck. Oh and before anyone says, he said this was in the span of about 15 minutes so there was no cherry-picking of morons.

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[Kagatob]

^ scripted.

Also repealing the 2nd amendment will never happen and the bill that they are trying to pass doesn't even come close to beginning to chip away at it.

They give you freedom to have your tinfoil hattery, I just wish they also gave the rest of us freedom from this kind of tinfoil hattery as well.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ scripted.

Also repealing the 2nd amendment will never happen and the bill that they are trying to pass doesn't even come close to beginning to chip away at it.

They give you freedom to have your tinfoil hattery, I just wish they also gave the rest of us freedom from this kind of tinfoil hattery as well.

Restricting peoples' rights to own firearms is chipping away at it, and it's exactly why this wasn't passed. Background checks while nice would solve nothing, and making certain firearms illegal chips away at the 2nd amendment.

Watch the video of that guy's fake petition and see how dumb people are. Granted it's southern California but the level of stupid is still higher than expected.

Originally Posted by Alendria [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why I believe amendments to bills in Congress should not be allowed.

Sometimes amendments to bills are done on purpose anticipating the bills will fail. It gives one party ammunition against the other. This bill for instance lets the democrats argue that the GOP is against even such sensible legislation as expanded background checks. Makes them look good and the GOP look bad; and the American people are dumb and naive enough to fall for it because they won't pay attention to the whole bill and what caused it to fail in the first place. They'll just see "omg no expanded background checks, GOP is teh evil."

[Alendria]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes amendments to bills are done on purpose anticipating the bills will fail. It gives one party ammunition against the other. This bill for instance lets the democrats argue that the GOP is against even such sensible legislation as expanded background checks. Makes them look good and the GOP look bad; and the American people are dumb and naive enough to fall for it because they won't pay attention to the whole bill and what caused it to fail in the first place. They'll just see "omg no expanded background checks, GOP is teh evil."

Yes, sadly amendments are used to manipulate public opinion like this as well, just another reason that they need to be abolished.

I do concede that background checks probably do need to be expanded somewhat, but I'm not delusional into thinking it would've helped all those kids. I've filled out the form so many times that I practically have it memorized and can fill it out with my eyes closed. 90 second phone call later or about 10 clicks of a mouse depending on the dealer, swap some cash, and I'm out the door with a new shiny.

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Restricting peoples' rights to own firearms is chipping away at it, and it's exactly why this wasn't passed."

I love how people think the 2nd amendment was made for personal firearm use. It was established to protect the states right to form and maintain their own militia.

[Black Jesus]

Originally Posted by Millburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how people think the 2nd amendment was made for personal firearm use. It was established to protect the states right to form and maintain their own militia.

Wrong, common argument from revisionist liberal history. Jefferson specifically removed extra commas from the 2nd amendment when it was ratified to avoid this confusion about the militia, and any writings of the founders will confirm that the people, not the state, are the militia. In fact, a good faction of the founders were against standing armies at all.

http://constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm

Liberals also like to falsely claim the National Guard is the militia. Yes, the 2nd amendment ratified in 1791 was totally referring to an organization formed in 1903.

Furthermore, the supreme court has ruled since the Bill of Rights' inception that the 2nd amendment gives you the personal right to own a firearm, so there is both historical and legal precedence.

Liberalism = mental disorder