My anti-military thread..

[Daldolma]

other fun fact, people that self-identify as 'upper class' are 3 times more likely to self-identify as democrats than as republicans.

[Ephirith]

Our representation is unhealthy because people are fucking ignorant. They don't take an active interest in politics, and they don't put any real sincerity or effort into making the right political choices. You're right to say that the line between a vote and a real political outcome has been clouded by corruption and money, because it has... but that has just as much to do with corruption at the top as it does with decay at the bottom.

You can not have a healthy state with an ignorant electorate. It got this way because people were too fucking stupid to run the system properly. One nice thing about our system is you can't blame all your problems on the elite without looking like an ass, because the only way it got that way is because you fucked up your duty as a citizen and let a nice, semi-functional republic-system become a real oligarchy.

Yet you probably think you're speaking in everyone's best interests when you want to throw a brick at the establishment. When someone like you feels like they need to opt out of the system just because they aren't getting their way, that just undermines everything. I think a more fair and a more effective use of your time would be to encourage other people to speak in their own best interests until the system works again, instead if chimping out like a god damned somalian.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(meaningless words) .. I think a more fair and a more effective use of your time would be to encourage other people to speak in their own best interests until the system works again, instead if chimping out like a god damned somalian.

Because talking has done so much good in the past?

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because talking has done so much good in the past?

The Anglo-American governmental miracle that conquered the entire world over the last few centuries was built on an effective system of talking. We have a very strong common law tradition and a history of relative civil stability. It's a shame you have to troll so much.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Anglo-American governmental miracle that conquered the entire world over the last few centuries was built on the gold stores of the disenfranchised aristocracy of Europe.

ftfy

[Auvdar]

.. God damnit HBB shut the fuck up. I like you bro, but shut the fuck up with this military crap. It's not funny, it's not trolling. It's just retarded. (Sorry, I got to about page 15 of this.. gave up after that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Anglo-American governmental miracle that conquered the entire world over the last few centuries was built on an effective system of talking. We have a very strong common law tradition and a history of relative civil stability. It's a shame you have to troll so much.

Seriously tho, your rhetoric is too thick for me to stomach. Calm that shit down and rephrase this. I can't even get through it without smashing things.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our representation is unhealthy because people are fucking ignorant. They don't take an active interest in politics, and they don't put any real sincerity or effort into making the right political choices. You're right to say that the line between a vote and a real political outcome has been clouded by corruption and money, because it has... but that has just as much to do with corruption at the top as it does with decay at the bottom.

You can not have a healthy state with an ignorant electorate. It got this way because people were too fucking stupid to run the system properly. One nice thing about our system is you can't blame all your problems on the elite without looking like an ass, because the only way it got that way is because you fucked up your duty as a citizen and let a nice, semi-functional republic-system become a real oligarchy.

Yet you probably think you're speaking in everyone's best interests when you want to throw a brick at the establishment. When someone like you feels like they need to opt out of the system just because they aren't getting their way, that just undermines everything. I think a more fair and a more effective use of your time would be to encourage other people to speak in their own best interests until the system works again, instead if chimping out like a god damned somalian.

This is extremely optimistic. The problem is that everyone will always be ignorant. Read Mancur Olson for a good description of how government is always owned by special interest groups.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is extremely optimistic. The problem is that everyone will always be ignorant. Read Mancur Olson for a good description of how government is always owned by special interest groups.

Regardless of who owns what... Fuck the government.

[Mortiiss]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regardless of who owns what... Fuck the government.