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Old 03-17-2013, 07:52 PM
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The fact Sirken suggests being pro-zerg makes me wonder why Nilbog who is anti-zerg allows him to be at the top of the GM ladder with such differing ideals.

Both good gents obviously, but still i would have to side with the creator of the project rather than the lead GM. This raid scene isn't classic albeit for many reasons, possibly Rogean feels the same way as Sirken (this i don't know). None the less there is a change that should be made and it isn't forcing guilds to do as they don't please.

I would assume the majority of this server has experience of having played this game in the past and knows the general way to play it. With that being said it leaves little room for the argument of people being less skilled or unknowing with a population of minuscule percentage being truly fresh to the game. The game is just that a game, it was made to be fun and to share in that experience with others. Just because guilds aren't getting the mobs now doesn't mean they can't or don't have the drive, many just prefer not to get involved with the current set of tactics required to do so. Still even so the beauty of a game like this is fun can still be had in many ways.

Nilbog's proposed ideas just need to come sooner rather than later because i think that they will atleast help alleviate the pressure and tension of these forms of discussion until Velious (or more content in general) is released. After all many of us are here for nostalgic purposes so just to see the mobs regardless of failed attempts still provides a rush, one in which all deserve to get an opportunity to experience in my opinion.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:32 PM
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Just as a random question, is it possible to do in-game polls with this server's set up? I would love to see the results of an "are you satisfied with the raiding scene" poll.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:46 PM
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Just as a random question, is it possible to do in-game polls with this server's set up? I would love to see the results of an "are you satisfied with the raiding scene" poll.
I doubt it, just because there's nothing that limits the number of characters or accounts any one person has. It would get messed with.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:42 PM
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This thread is getting derailed by Sirken's comments... no guilds need to merge.

Is TMO on board with this? CHECK (according to Tiggles)
Is FE on board with this? CHECK (I think.. according to Shinko)

We still need:

Confirm 1 week every 3 months;
Confirm the raid targets (outdoor dragons + Draco/Maestro?) or all raid targets?
Confirm timer to FTE (24 hours?);
anything else?;

Smaller guilds on board?
A-Team? CHECK (according to Lorean)
Divinity? CHECK (according to OP)
Taken?
Full Circle?
Flawless?
any other I missed?

Let's finish this checklist and see where we're at.
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:13 AM
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This thread is getting derailed by Sirken's comments... no guilds need to merge.

Is TMO on board with this? CHECK (according to Tiggles)
Is FE on board with this? CHECK (I think.. according to Shinko)

We still need:

Confirm 1 week every 3 months;
Confirm the raid targets (outdoor dragons + Draco/Maestro?) or all raid targets?
Confirm timer to FTE (24 hours?);
anything else?;

Smaller guilds on board?
A-Team? CHECK (according to Lorean)
Divinity? CHECK (according to OP)
Taken?
Full Circle?
Flawless?
any other I missed?
Let's finish this checklist and see where we're at.
Count us in!
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by slappytwotoes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This thread is getting derailed by Sirken's comments... no guilds need to merge.

Is TMO on board with this? CHECK (according to Tiggles)
Is FE on board with this? CHECK (I think.. according to Shinko)

We still need:

Confirm 1 week every 3 months;
Confirm the raid targets (outdoor dragons + Draco/Maestro?) or all raid targets?
Confirm timer to FTE (24 hours?);
anything else?;

Smaller guilds on board?
A-Team? CHECK (according to Lorean)
Divinity? CHECK (according to OP)
Taken?
Full Circle?
Flawless?
any other I missed?

Let's finish this checklist and see where we're at.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:21 PM
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Take your own advice if you are just going to complain!

How about setting the example of sharing some of your brainstorms?
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This thread is getting derailed by Sirken's comments... no guilds need to merge.

Is TMO on board with this? CHECK (according to Tiggles)
Is FE on board with this? CHECK (according to Shinko)

We still need:

Confirm 1 week every 3 months;
Confirm the raid targets (outdoor dragons + Draco/Maestro?) or all raid targets?
Confirm timer to FTE (24 hours?);
anything else?;

Smaller guilds on board?
A-Team? CHECK (according to Lorean)
Divinity? CHECK (according to OP)
Taken? CHECK (according to Aata)
Full Circle?
Flawless?
Europa? CHECK
any other I missed?

Let's finish this checklist and see where we're at.
Here's what I'm contributing: getting the thread back on the rails.

TMO and FE are BOTH amenable to the idea. But it needs a framework.

I like the original suggestions of 1 week every 3 months, all targets EXCEPT Trak and Gods.

24-hour FTE seems too long given it's a 7 day window. I wanna say 2 hours if it's primetime or weekend, 6 hours if not. But for simplicity, 4 hours FTE across the board.
Then its open to anyone, including TMO/FE.

Discuss.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:29 PM
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Thanks slappytwotoes for the help, much appreciated!

Few points though. I don't think we can realistically expect so many mobs being open for the first rounds. FE invested a lot to reach their current position, and I don't think they're willing to open everything. We'll have to take that into account.
The other point is that while on the paper TMO should be ok with it (considering how they brought endangered species, don't really have much need for most Kunark bosses, and some of them have voiced their approval), I haven't heard anything yet from their leadership. Therefore we can't yet say "it's ok".
And I'd rather see something getting started, even if it means less targets than the original proposal (which was everything minus Trak & VP) than nothing. We can build from there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:45 PM
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the answer would be "yes," because the poll itself would be zerged. accounts created, characters power leveled up to the voting level, all to win the vote. that is how deep the sickness runs.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:54 AM
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dont know about you guys, but i raid mobs on p99 with less people then we had on live
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