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Old 03-19-2013, 04:06 AM
finalgrunt finalgrunt is offline
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Pretty sure he said if a few of those guilds merged they could compete for the mobs. If you feel that means zerging that's your perception, or if you look at it rationally it could just mean that if you have a guild of 40 ppl and you merge with a guild of 40 ppl then it's more likely you could field 30-40 ppl to kill raid mobs when it pops. Just curious what is your raiding experience here on P99?
You know all too well that having a big roster is only one part of what's required to compete. In short, you also need to sell your soul to the pixel god [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
2nd league would be for the people not able/ready to do so heh.

Back to the topic. TMO, we waiting for your answer pals!

P.S: Cheers to all of you who sent me supporting msgs in game yesterday btw ^^
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:15 AM
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Pretty sure he said if a few of those guilds merged they could compete for the mobs. If you feel that means zerging that's your perception, or if you look at it rationally it could just mean that if you have a guild of 40 ppl and you merge with a guild of 40 ppl then it's more likely you could field 30-40 ppl to kill raid mobs when it pops. Just curious what is your raiding experience here on P99?
How do they compete for the mobs? They have to poopsock and 24/7 track/batphone
Which requires stupidly large guilds with enough able to log in at a moments notice.

Now there are other alternatives to that, but unfortunately they require server cooperation. Something to which this thread pertains - and the answer from the GM is not exactly in the spirit of that is it. It was a terrible reply whichever way you look at it, not to mention uninspiringly unoriginal.
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:44 AM
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How do they compete for the mobs? They have to poopsock and 24/7 track/batphone
Which requires stupidly large guilds with enough able to log in at a moments notice.

Now there are other alternatives to that, but unfortunately they require server cooperation. Something to which this thread pertains - and the answer from the GM is not exactly in the spirit of that is it. It was a terrible reply whichever way you look at it, not to mention uninspiringly unoriginal.
people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:55 AM
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people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?
If you've been around and close to me since I started playing on p99, you would know the answer.
Let's say I wasn't advocating IB's policy, even after the merge. Got almost booted for that few times [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (You would be hard pressed to find any occurence of me killing a poopsocked target. Because it never happened). But I also knew that I couldn't do anything to prevent it. Hyper competition is/was backed up by the staff, and clearly stated they wouldn't do anything to change it. There are some players who don't mind going full hardcore. Do the math. It's left to players to come up with solutions.

Today, I believe there is an opportunity with TMO & FE, and I'm just trying to get a reasonable request through. It's now in the hands of TMO to shake a hand on this, and help this server becoming a better place (while leaving an overwhelming ratio of the content available for hyper competition). Which I've come to accept. I don't agree with it, but that's because my classic experience differs from others, due to the server's nature I played on.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:26 PM
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people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?
well sure. The current added variance has shaken things up bit, but you know full well it existed and would exist again if that was removed. way to miss the point tho, a+
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:59 PM
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Pretty sure he said if a few of those guilds merged they could compete for the mobs. If you feel that means zerging that's your perception, or if you look at it rationally it could just mean that if you have a guild of 40 ppl and you merge with a guild of 40 ppl then it's more likely you could field 30-40 ppl to kill raid mobs when it pops. Just curious what is your raiding experience here on P99?
none. but batphone/zerg roster/loot council explains itself, does it not?

Or, are you curious about my raid experience in general? I've been in two 24/7 bathphone guilds with mandatory raid attendance or -DKP or just being booted.

I never could stand zerg roster guilds. That is easy mode. Hard mode is a guild where your roster = your raid force, and if you can't get to the mobs and compete and beat, you suck.

I have also enjoyed serious/casual guilds such as Divinity seems to be, and was in a very pleasant two guild "alliance" that worked pretty nicely for a few years.

And no, it is not my "perception": forming a guild that way exceeds your raid force, in order to make sure you always have a raid force, is the definition of a zerg guild.

At least don't be such a weak sauce newb that you try to deny that.

The many, the loot-awarded, the Zerg.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:45 PM
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none. but batphone/zerg roster/loot council explains itself, does it not?

Or, are you curious about my raid experience in general? I've been in two 24/7 bathphone guilds with mandatory raid attendance or -DKP or just being booted.

I never could stand zerg roster guilds. That is easy mode. Hard mode is a guild where your roster = your raid force, and if you can't get to the mobs and compete and beat, you suck.

I have also enjoyed serious/casual guilds such as Divinity seems to be, and was in a very pleasant two guild "alliance" that worked pretty nicely for a few years.

And no, it is not my "perception": forming a guild that way exceeds your raid force, in order to make sure you always have a raid force, is the definition of a zerg guild.

At least don't be such a weak sauce newb that you try to deny that.

The many, the loot-awarded, the Zerg.
cool so you don't raid here. all i was asking.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:49 AM
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I am having a lot of fun playing on this server. I enjoy my time on this server. And I absolutely dread hitting level 60 on this server.

To see a GM say that if people want to kill raid mobs they should join the poopzerg is incredibly disheartening.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:14 AM
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Morning update, no word from TMO leaders yet. So I don't even know if it's being discussed. If a TMO member could give us some feedback if anything is going, would be appreciated [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:28 AM
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I am having a lot of fun playing on this server. I enjoy my time on this server. And I absolutely dread hitting level 60 on this server.

To see a GM say that if people want to kill raid mobs they should join the poopzerg is incredibly disheartening.
not what the gm said at all.
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