Leap Frog - Page 4

Mortiiss · #1 03-07-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm talking about situations where people press the limits and it gets put on us to provide evidence of what actually happened - that much should be clear, moran.

Maybe you've never heard of it, but there was once this thing called the 15-man rule that the GMs didn't feel like actually having to enforce themselves. So they left it up to us to provide evidence of who actually had and maintained a force of 15 people on a spawn. Unfortunately the GMs still were forced to sort through a bunch of conflicting screenshots and frapses, and the system basically crumbled (not soon enough) because it was retarded and nobody wanted to deal with it.

So can you see where I'm going with this yet, Mortiss?

I'm suggesting that it won't be long before people start leaving too many people in a zone or whatever the hell, and there will be conflicting reports of what actually happened (he was afk by accident - I swear!) and there's not going to be anyone who can reasonably sort through such a situation. Things will descend into chaos like they did before and you will just see a shitload of training, stolen pulls, and general douchebaggery.

Mortiss I really don't mean to be rude, but your posts are all garnish and no meat. Let's hear a real suggestion from you that isn't a rotation or just some vague desire to improve the raiding scene. Either that or you should probably shut up with your stupid white knighting.

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Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its the guilds and the players involved responsibility to not turn it into a bunch of rule lawyers argue stuff by the letter. When your guild is involved, of course, all that matters is the fine print. That's why no one likes you guys - most people are for the "intent" not the "as written" that I know you would champion around like a toolbox.

I didn't raid back in those days, but for people who did (getsome perhaps?) did TMO do most of the rule lawyering or was it something all parties were involved in? Since starting on this server our guild has had to run fraps pretty much 24/7 and watch whatever TMO is doing at all times because they try some of the sleeziest shit I've ever seen a raiding guild do.

How many times has Sentenza been suspended for training? He an officer? Oh.

Zeelot talks about how he likes griefing and training people too. Chest put it best: "This is why we can't have nice things."

Excuse the blatant typos.

Knightt · #2 03-07-2013, 12:37 AM

reading.... and reading..... reading.... still not understand what the point of all this is ? draco was up we was in fear 10 mins before TMO we knew draco was up our thing was ... if we got it we got it . if we didnt oh well keep on fear like we planed

Mortiiss · #3 03-07-2013, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Knightt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reading.... and reading..... reading.... still not understand what the point of all this is ? draco was up we was in fear 10 mins before TMO we knew draco was up our thing was ... if we got it we got it . if we didnt oh well keep on fear like we planed

Now that the dust has settled a bit I would like to say I admire your determination. Keep working on it and maybe shit like this won't happen to your guild in the future. As long as you learn, right? Best way to look at it.

Boilon · #4 03-07-2013, 01:00 AM

man I read to about page 6 and realized this was spinning in to MORE FE vs TMO shit. Man this crap is worse than 4chan but somehow it's good enough to make me read it....

feel bad for FV though.

Tarigin · #5 03-07-2013, 10:00 AM

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man I read to about page 6 and realized this was spinning in to MORE FE vs TMO shit. Man this crap is worse than 4chan but somehow it's good enough to make me read it....

feel bad for FV though.

+1

getsome · #6 03-07-2013, 01:05 AM

CAme home drunk. Spoke my peace. Good night p99!

Tippett · #7 03-07-2013, 04:34 AM

send me weed in mail

Peekae · #8 03-07-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Skywarp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

8:00 pm wed. TMO and FE race to the Plane of Fear to kill Dracholiche. 28 Flawless Victory had already cleared the zone in and been present over 30 minutes. TMO does its mad dash and pulls named while a force is already in zone present. Gates 2 minutes after kill and gone. Another clear violation of the Play Nice Policy.

When are you so called Devs or GMs going to reprimand this kind of bull dog behavior?

On Eq live this kind of stuff was met with swift punishment and these policy's were enforced to the letter. Where is the respect for another guilds raid? We have the same rules posted but this kind of stuff happens consistently every single week.

Its about time to do the job your getting "payed" for Devs.

To be fair I'm pretty sure we had just zoned in. In feerrot for 20 mins maybe but I took a 5min afk outside portal before break in and came back to a zergfest.

Snackies · #9 03-07-2013, 08:40 AM

WTS Withered Totem of Widdershins

Signal · #10 03-09-2013, 10:55 AM

Please..Like FE is any different than TMO. You can't condemn what they do and then do the exact same things and try to pass it off as their fault as to the reason you are doing it. I was up in Hate awhile back when Full Circle was there camping Maestro area and Inny popped. Their guild ran up to engage Inny and you guys zoned into the zone and one of your players who logged in at Inny's area proceeded to(accidental or intentional who knows ?) train their raid with mobs from Inny's area and forced them to stop and kill them while you guys ran on by and killed Inny.

Where was their shot at Inny then ? TMO was not in zone at the time and Full Circle was clearly going to engage him first without the train caused by one of your members. Heck one of their players had already taken the first DT from Inny when the train by 1 of your players hit their guild. Now I am not saying what you did was wrong or right... You also didn't see their guild on the forums complaining about it or making a 20 page thread about it. It is to the individual perspective of each person on raiding to decide that.. But do not come to us trying to pretend you want to give other people a shot at mobs when no one but FE and FC were in hate at the time and this happened. I am not saying anything bad about FE the raid scene on P1999 has been cutthroat for a long time... But do not pretend there haven't been situations where another guild was in position for a kill and your guild didn't overrun them for that kill.