Leap Frog

[Skywarp]

Q: Will the planes be open to everyone?
A: Yes. Please be respectful to your fellow players and respect their space. If there is a guild getting ready to raid Hate for some armor and they start pulling creatures, don't go up there and sit on top of them pulling mobs in their area as well. If Guild A is doing Hate, then perhaps Guild B should be doing Fear. Basically, don't be a douche bag.

From the pages of P99 Play Nice.

All for you Lune cause entitlement isn't for the lowbie guilds anymore.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't speak for FE but TMO would have allowed yout to have that kill if FE wasn;t on the way to kill it.
Sorry you got involved. This is just the way it had to be with FE trying to steal all the kills from the server.

LOL, were you able to type that with a straight face? So once you start losing some targets because your guild is dying and FE is out playing you, we are "trying to steal all the kills from the server". Nevermind the one year plus that TMO had every target on lock down. You're a joke.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't speak for TMO, but my guild would have gladly given FV an attempt if TMO would agree to this as well. We have tried to work with them in the past, but they are adamant on keeping everything locked down while they farm VP for the 10,000th time.

Sorry man, we'll keep fighting the good fight though.

didn't get kill, would have been nice... lawl.

[bluejam]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't speak for TMO, but my guild would have gladly given FV an attempt if TMO would agree to this as well.

So unless TMO agrees to this "policy" you'll continue to mimic their behaviour (if they're involved in a race ofc). Interesting...

Why not team-up with said "low-tier" guild and go for said target together instead of just racing TMO by yourself?

[Mortiiss]

Originally Posted by bluejam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So unless TMO agrees to this "policy" you'll continue to mimic their behaviour (if they're involved in a race ofc). Interesting...

Why not team-up with said "low-tier" guild and go for said target together instead of just racing TMO by yourself?

Because we aren't here to hold people's hands. If you want to raid though and you're making an effort, I don't see why my guild wouldn't welcome you into the scene as long as you weren't a bunch of douchebags. We did it FC/BDA/Divinity/etc. and yes there have been some incidents where we didn't handle things the best, but we also make amends when we can.

You're just being sensational now - no one is entitled to anything anywhere in life, Everquest included. Working together != hand holding. Hope that clears that up.

[bluejam]

Almost seems too tedious to explore, but anyway:

Are you really, REALLY convinced you can make TMO stop pulling off their asshattery by playing by the same rules? Or are you just unavoidably becoming part of the issue? Regardless of intent or by accident, the little guy will be in the way and harmed at some level (*).

Humor me though. Let's assume you make TMO ragequit like IB did (lawl), which frankly will never happen because they harbour too many basement dwellers with nothing better to do. What's the plan? Go carebear with a server-wide rotation after owning the competition and being able to monopolize as you please? I doubt it. People are weak. In order to pull that off, the majority of members has to share this mentality. I wonder if after countless months of poopsocking, endless tracking hours and dealing with trains, killstealing, DA stalling and random GM decisions people won't feel like they're "entitled" to the raiding content - to pick up the fortune cookie wisdom.
The same FE players that preach this in theory altruistic goal are the same ones (from what I can gather) who were lucky enough to pretty much attain BiS status in TR/IB (or close to it) even though they didn't agree with the guild's overall etiquette towards outsiders. I'm not saying we've had any malignant tendencies towards anyone who deserved it (TMO), but look above (*). Also if you're being hated on by anyone at a raidable level and your efforts to clear up your name are in vain you'll stop giving a fuck at some point. No comments just made the tin foils grow thicker though. But I digress.
The only ones currently benefitting from this holy war against TMO are the (hardcore) members or DKP hoarders of FE. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that. Just pondering about your longterm motives. Judging from your leadership circle / recruitment base (again, as far as I can assess), it almost appears to boil down to "whatever gets the job done". Although that's highly subjective coming from a non-member, I do have my personal experiences / encounters to fall back on regarding this matter and I'm not the only one. Let's leave it at that.
Anyway, if this shitfest is actually cleared up at some point in the near future and FE reaches its goal (whatever that may be), kudos to you!

[Mortiiss]

Well I mean, if you're going to say I'm spewing bullshit when I speak, I'm going to make you look stupid. It was pretty effortless too.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I mean, if you're going to say I'm spewing bullshit when I speak, I'm going to make you look stupid. It was pretty effortless too.

no one said shit about rotations lol, you look stupid all on your own.

[Autotune]

I'm sure FE would still be here if they got the kill talking about how they'd do rotations tho... 100% sure.

[Knightt]

and this is the stuff that I like to stay out of and try to keep my guild far from it this Plane of fear this was better than BDA leap froging us in hate to get to a maestro .... killed all of us and TMO got the kill... gratz TMO your were faster you got kill gratz guys