FTE shouts

[Enygma]

approved!! This will negate GM response as long as training subsides.

Now lets not worry about the crappy raid scene and lets focus on Velious as it will fix the current state of things because you will NOT be able to zerg... you will NOT be able to FTE snipe because the Mobs will rape anyone without a CH rotation on them. !!

What other help do you need with Velious sir, your minions are ready and willing to help!?

Sworen Owns
60 Warlord - The Mystical Order

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These will be written on a per-npc basis. Faydedar noted.

Please make this yellow text as it is a custom feature (although now necessary as the # extended Kunark and # of players who were able to farm things before things got fixed).

[zyryn]

Will there be an emote when agro has been dropped? Without this, one could pull agro, trigger the emote and drop the agro while other guilds still believe that FTE has already been established.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by zyryn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Will there be an emote when agro has been dropped? Without this, one could pull agro, trigger the emote and drop the agro while other guilds still believe that FTE has already been established.

What game do you play? It's pretty easy to figure out if a giant dragon is engaged or not...

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In lieu of waiting to revamp the entire raid scene, I can move forward with the FTE (First to Engage) message portion. (Note: Overall raid scene changes are still pending and not forgotten about.)

For those unfamiliar with the proposed changes, raid targets will notify players in the immediate vicinity who was first to engage. Once aggroed, the npc ceases additional shouts unless disengaged with an empty hatelist.

i.e.

Lord Nagafen attacks $name!

This immediately shows players in the area who was first to engage and negates the need for a GM to work out details.

Questions/FAQ:

This system will not be present on the pvp server unless requested by the community.

Does everyone approve of FTE messages? If not, please explain your concerns.

Thank you for this Nilbog.


Question, How does this effect memblur effects?

Say TMO engages a dragon we get the shout half way through FE Memblurs said dragon and resets his agro and a FE member hits it is that raid interference or will we be back to memblur wars?

[Rhambuk]

definitely a HUGE step in the right direction, cheers nilbog!

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Question, How does this effect memblur effects?

Say TMO engages a dragon we get the shout half way through FE Memblurs said dragon and resets his agro and a FE member hits it is that raid interference or will we be back to memblur wars?

This system is designed to help players determine FTE by visible color (likely yellow) emotes. Nothing about existing interference rules or internal logging has changed.

[falkun]

Thanks for this! I like that it'll be yellow system text.

Raid mobs pulled across the zone to a waiting raid: Gore, Sev, Tal, and Fay especially, but Maestro, Dracoliche, Inny, and Noble should also be considered for "zone-wide" versus "localized". I would personally prefer all messages to be zone-wide, but any FTE shout will be an improvement.

FTE disengage would be nice, but not as necessary as the engage.

@Zyryn: If you attempt to pull a mob you think has reset and do not get an FTE notice, then you should know that the mob is still engaged and should react appropriately.

Its good to hear this is moving forward!

[Nirgon]

I have my Trakanon favoritism thread along with an entire history that makes a very compelling argument at the ready. Hopefully we will all soon see the effect he has had on the community, remove him and give him VIP/contributor status.

[Autotune]

I'm with rogean tbh, I don't think it should be required to be zone wide for the mobs that are being pulled.

If your guild can't figure out if you've pulled something or not, your probably shouldn't be raiding.

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's easy to tell when a raid force has engaged a target but there are other circumstances to take into account as well. For example, dragon shouts his FTE, then charms/kills that target, which means that FTE is now open again. I think this will be incredibly useful for things like Sev, Fay, Tal, Gore because those targets are pulled to a waiting raid but for other targets like say VS and Trak there's usually shenanigans and gamesmanship involved (1 person trying to snag FTE right before another raid engages, tagging/flopping to stall other raids, etc)

seriously... FTE shouts are needed for poopsock lottery engages, not for regular engages. Not to mention Sev, Tal and Gore already have zone wide messages for when they're aggro'd.