Mormon Flowchart

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no middle ground in a religious discussion. ROFL

There is no middle ground when talking about something as basic as the existence of god. Either you believe God exists, or you don't. Do everyone else a favor and stay out of rational discussion if you can't even make up your mind over something so basic as that, "i don't know" is not an acceptable answer for the reasons i previously outlined.

Regardless, archlyte has responded to my argument by comparing me to an entity from a fantasy series, im not sure where we can go from here.

[OforOppression]

i dont know if star wars existed

[Itap]

god is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.

[hatelore]

One thing I can say is, they are pretty close knit. But I went to a few boy scout events at some Mormon churchs and they seemed like really nice people. Very family oriented and smart about stocking food lol.

I could see myself being a Mormon. If they paid me enough. =P

[Safon]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing I can say is, they are pretty close knit. But I went to a few boy scout events at some Mormon churchs and they seemed like really nice people. Very family oriented and smart about stocking food lol.

I could see myself being a Mormon. If they paid me enough. =P

So you'd be a Mormon in name only. Lol you realize they have a whole whack of batshit insane beliefs they would expect you to conform to right

Mormons are scum

[August]

I hate RnF but I see a moment here where I can shed some light.

There are 2 dimensions of faith and belief. They are:

Gnostic vs Agnostic

&

Theistic and Atheistic

Theism implies a belief in a God. Atheism implies in a disbelief in God.

Gnosticism claims that there is evidence supporting existence/non-existence. Agnosticism claims that there is no evidence that he/she/it exists.

So when comparing 'Agnostic' to 'Atheism' realize that you are in fact incorrect and are comparing apples to aliens.

So, how can we define these types?

Gnostic Theist - Believes God exists and that there is evidence to back it up. You would probably call these people Christians, Muslims, Jews, what have you. They have their 'holy book' that is 'proof' that he exists. Get it?

Agnostic Theist - Believes that God exists but that there is no proof. This means they can't be Christians or Muslims or Jews, else they'd have to shy away from their texts. This is often referred to as Deism, Paganism, etc. Many former girlfriends would call this 'being spiritual' - it's also similar to believing in santa claus.

Agnostic Atheist - Believes that God does not exist nor does he care if he exists. This person doesn't see any proof that he exists one way or another, and has decided that he must not be there. This is what is called being logical - I see no proof of existence, therefore there must be proof. Most people would call this classification 'agnostic'.

Gnostic Atheist - These are the assholes that want to tell you why you're wrong. They believe God is a sham and that there is proof that he doesn't exist -i.e. famine, world wars, child molesters, and the universe being infinite, etc. It's possible to be a gnostic atheist and not be an asshole to everyone around you at all times that is even slightly religious, but it's pretty hard. We'd refer to these are 'militant atheists'. Check our reddit's /r/atheism and this is what you'll find.

I really hope this cleared up everyone's confusion.

[August]

Also I hate how you can't edit...

***there is no proof therefore he can't exist***

Thanks and have a wonderful day. Noodly Applendage bless you all.

[Safon]

Well that's probably too harsh, some are nice people, just dillusional and willingly buying into a racist/sexist religion

[Heavydrop]

Originally Posted by Safon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that's probably too harsh, some are nice people, just dillusional and willingly buying into a racist/sexist religion

It is neither, but you're entitled to your less than informed opinion

[Pico]

Originally Posted by Heavydrop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is neither, but you're entitled to your less than informed opinion

im open to all sexual orientations and religious backgrounds and would liek for u to convert me and possibly fellate me