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Old 01-19-2013, 09:25 PM
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I made a very articulate post about the definition of "arms". if the word "probably" causes your brain to cease functioning, then try and figure out a way to pretend it isn't there to be able to see the clear meaning presented in the text.

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Old 01-19-2013, 09:45 PM
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Why is it a straw-man?

Why doesn't the Constitution allow me to have whatever "arms" I want? Am I supposed to infer that legitimate legislation should define what "arms" are reasonable?

Isn't that infringement?

Show me what "arms" I'm allowed to bear under the Constitution.
Yes we get your point. . . Obviously there is a line to be drawn somewhere between firearms that are practical for the general public to own and those that are not. The debate is where. Some say that line is at walmart rifles with plastic addons that makes them look assaulty, others disagree. "Why don't you interpret laws 100% word-for-word??" isn't really an argument, it's just an attempt to look witty.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:38 PM
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Nice straw man fallacy. I think you are the only one trying to say that the second amendment means we can have FIM-92 Stingers.

Please display a higher level of comprehension for continued discourse.
Let's go back to basics.

Does the Constitution prohibit me from having this weapon?

If it DOES, that means the second amendment is open to legislation and interpretation. If it DOES NOT than we have to view the second amendment as sacrosanct.

If the Constitution is OPEN to legislation, we the people have the right to decide what weapons can and can't be used...including "assault-style" weaponry.

If it ISN'T OPEN to legislation we can pretty much carry whatever the fuck we want, because the Second Amendment is sacrosanct.

Thank you Harm...and a few others, for making the actual point I wanted to make.

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Old 01-19-2013, 10:41 PM
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If the Constitution is OPEN to legislation, we the people have the right to decide what weapons can and can't be used...including "assault-style" weaponry.
Of course it is, hence the term AMENDMENT.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:43 PM
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Let's go back to basics.

Does the Constitution prohibit me from having this weapon?

If it DOES, that means the second amendment is open to legislation and interpretation. If it DOES NOT than we have to view the second amendment as sacrosanct.

If the Constitution is OPEN to legislation, we the people have the right to decide what weapons can and can't be used...including "assault-style" weaponry.

If it ISN'T OPEN to legislation we can pretty much carry whatever the fuck we want, because the Second Amendment is sacrosanct.

Thank you Harm...and a few others, for making the actual point I wanted to make.

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The underlined, i think is very clearly saying that this isn't up for the type of legislation that would prevent an individual from carrying any knife, gun, or pistol.

I think that if you want to destroy this country, try and disarm the people. I personally can't think of a more effective way to start a civil war.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:16 PM
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:32 PM
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banning assault weapons dum cuz they the best for hunting, home defense, and tyrannical governments. Basically every reason we possibly have the 2nd amendment
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:57 PM
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While we're at it, the entire existence of the FCC is violating the right of free speech. I want my local morning radio hacks to drop F bombs until lunch.

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Old 01-19-2013, 10:04 PM
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