God is Santa Claus for adults

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Erasong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dont get all defensive. you are allowed to believe whatever you want and i do not fault you for it. I personally tho feel if you pray in 1 hand and shit in the other, see which will fill first.

You don't know what I believe. Now, what was your point?

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't know what I believe. Now, what was your point?

I dont need to know what you believe to respect your right to it, and expect the same from you.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Erasong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont need to know what you believe to respect your right to it, and expect the same from you.

Can you answer the fucking question? Holy shit. Just answer the question. You're starting to look like a politician. You did something in a public forum, you can expect that your actions may come under scrutiny. If you can't deal with that then maybe you should stay out of the lens of the public forum.

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you answer the fucking question? Holy shit. Just answer the question. You're starting to look like a politician. You did something in a public forum, you can expect that your actions may come under scrutiny. If you can't deal with that then maybe you should stay out of the lens of the public forum.

I guess if you cant figure it out, are going to resort to swearing and getting irate, ill spell it out simple for you. The guy was responding to someone talking about not trusting doctors, said they dont have to prove themselves becuase they have time and time again. That was the "this is something we can touch and feel" comment your so obsessed over. My point is blind faith cant be used to prove there is a god. That is why its called faith. I choose to trust in things that can be proven to me. I dont know why you need to get all bent out of shape either. Relax a bit. I realize this is just an online forum but cmon, at least act like an ass to someone who deserves it.

[Branaddar]

Whatever your personal beliefs are, why mock someone else's?

If somebody can find comfort and a moral guideline in something that makes a positive change in their life, isn't that a good thing?

Sure, some people abuse religions and should be punished for it, but a lot of people make positive change in their own lives and the lives around them through those beliefs.

Incidentally, I'm atheist before you start bashing my religion defense.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Branaddar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whatever your personal beliefs are, why mock someone else's?

If somebody can find comfort and a moral guideline in something that makes a positive change in their life, isn't that a good thing?

Sure, some people abuse religions and should be punished for it, but a lot of people make positive change in their own lives and the lives around them through those beliefs.

Incidentally, I'm atheist before you start bashing my religion defense.

The world would be a much better place to live if more folks had this attitude.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Erasong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess if you cant figure it out, are going to resort to swearing and getting irate, ill spell it out simple for you. The guy was responding to someone talking about not trusting doctors, said they dont have to prove themselves becuase they have time and time again. That was the "this is something we can touch and feel" comment your so obsessed over. My point is blind faith cant be used to prove there is a god. That is why its called faith. I choose to trust in things that can be proven to me. I dont know why you need to get all bent out of shape either. Relax a bit. I realize this is just an online forum but cmon, at least act like an ass to someone who deserves it.

#1. Rants and flames. Sorry but I just can't be bothered with a thread that doesn't have ranting and flaming here. I thought I saw an opportunity to bring this thread into the realm of 'RnF' rather than just another OT thread in the RnF section.

#2. Blind faith can't be used to prove anything? No, I suppose not. But what you don't realize is that every single metaphysical entity that you accept as an individual is also unprovable. Concepts like "Justice," "free will" and "love" do not exist in any physical sense. We can ascribe characteristics to them but they are formless to us and therefore we can not be said to truly know them.

#3. What is my point? My point is that when you say you "trust in things that are proven to you" You actually mean you "trust in things that you accept on faith" since basic, foundational concepts such as objective reality can never be irrefutably proven by their definitions.

[Akame]

Originally Posted by Branaddar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whatever your personal beliefs are, why mock someone else's?

If somebody can find comfort and a moral guideline in something that makes a positive change in their life, isn't that a good thing?

Sure, some people abuse religions and should be punished for it, but a lot of people make positive change in their own lives and the lives around them through those beliefs.

Incidentally, I'm atheist before you start bashing my religion defense.

Well spoken! (For an atheist! :P )

[Lazortag]

Except lots of people reasonably don't believe in free will, love, or any absolute concept of "justice" so your second point is unbelievably dumb. Like, have you really never heard of the debate over whether people have free will? Seriously?

Personally I don't really understand how you can believe in something for which you have no evidence and for which there could never be any evidence, especially something with implications like the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient being. Most atheists don't hold the position that God doesn't exist, but rather that they can't know and that committing themselves to the belief in God is like committing yourself to a belief in fairies.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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#2. Blind faith can't be used to prove anything? No, I suppose not. But what you don't realize is that every single metaphysical entity that you accept as an individual is also unprovable. Concepts like "Justice," "free will" and "love" do not exist in any physical sense. We can ascribe characteristics to them but they are formless to us and therefore we can not be said to truly know them....

I was responding to this btw.