Raiding scene changes proposal

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I doubt it or you would have said how.



How is that a down side? Ok so you stack rogues and wizzies...big deal? If your guild manages to get more people on the target faster, it won't matter how many wizzies or rogues the other guild has if they are too late. Also, how would the best geared have major advantages? Anyone that's capable of taking down raid targets are all pretty damn well geared so I really doubt it's that much of an advantage.

Memblur will exploit the "who does the most dmg".

Basically, a guild could do 95% of the damage, an enchanter from another guild can come up and memblur the target and his rag-tag band of rogues could manage to do the most on the last 5% and get xp/loot.

So even if they show up late, they can still win easily enough.

This is, if memblur isn't fully healing the raid target... dunno if they ever actually fixed that lol.

[melkezidek]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy Jesus Christ, does everyone on this server just have one shit idea after another or something?

How about, on every single fucking raid boss, whoever manages to do the most damage to the target before it dies, gets the fucking kill?

Why is the most obvious solution not obvious to anyone apparently? I mean just look at it. It's one sentence long and it solves every single problem. Not a single petition should ever be needed and there's virtually no way to exploit this rule.

Has its own down side though. The stacking of rogues and wizzies for kills in raids would go through the roof. The best geared would have major advantages. I liked the First in Force that we did on live but here we would have problems with poop socking and camped chars. I think the biggest help will be the FTE shout or what ever they are putting in.

[Faywind]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about, on every single raid boss, whoever manages to do the most damage to the target before it dies, gets the fucking kill?

Why is the most obvious solution not obvious to anyone apparently? I mean just look at it. It's one sentence long and it solves every single problem. Not a single petition should ever be needed and there's virtually no way to exploit this rule.

Worst...idea...ever.

Someone doesn't understand memblur.

[Nordenwatch]

No one is going to "discuss amongst their guilds" about this because it'll just get ignored. Like stealin said there is no way to enforce this. " no pre-camping" and "only evac from KC to EJ"... what are you going to do, watch everyone who evacs into EJ and note their names down and if others are in seb killing trak they're in violation?

[Vandy]

FTE shout will NEVER happen.
As the GMs stated with Inny it's different in every situation.
Where as Inny's FTE actually works differently according to Sirken you have to be the first person to damage the mob and not the first person to be on the aggro list like FTE has been enforced before. With that ruling I officially lost any hope of a FTE shout as was supposed to be "in the works"

[TWDL_Prexus]

Delusions of grandeur. Either step up your game to compete with TMO, or consider a different game. As long as TMO is around there will be no easy raiding. This aspect of the server is probably one of the most classic things about this server.

[tekniq]

to OP, your argument would only be valid if everything was in good faith. you can't police people from not parking fully buffed toons, then you're going to petition that guild X parked 10 forces, GMs don't want to hear that shit either.

TBH, i think the coolest way that might take a bit of work is if there is a 7 day window when all mobs will spawn sometime within the 7 days and there is just a server wide message that mob x popped at time y (like a server shutdown message), then you can send out your batphones. Think it would also be cool if there was like a 20% chance that two mobs spawn at the same time, 10% chance 3 mobs spawn and a 5% chance that all mobs spawn at once, Socks would be clean, and no one would have to sit there like an idiot tracking for hours.

i.e, week of 1/13

Sunday - 10am: oh shit, gore pops
Sunday - 7pm: wtf, inny pops
Tuesday - 5am: dafuq? trakanon
Wednesday - ....
Thursday - 1pm: HOLY HELL!! VS & CT
Friday - 8pm: OMG WTF BBQ! sev, talendor AND fay?!?!?!
you get the picture...






and I represent the ghost of VD.

[Autotune]

should just make it so raid mobs can spawn randomly in any zone at any time.

and people can't level past 44

and you can only wear 7 pieces of gear

and you can only have 10 items in your inventory

you can't carry more than 100 platinum on you and 200 platinum in your bank

items can't stack past 5

[Autotune]

Here is an overhaul I wrote up a few weeks ago that I sent to Sirken (he never replied). I later (a week or two after sending it to Sirken) sent it to Tarathiel of BDA (who seemed to like some/most of it) and to Zagum of TMO (idk if he ever looked at it tho).

INNY
- Pullable (requires the pull to reach destination)
Must state pulling - in shout

Maestro
- Pullable (requires the pull to reach destination)
Must state pulling - in shout

CT
- Pullable (requires the pull to reach destination)
Must state pulling - in shout
- Kiting for pre-engages is fine
- DT griefing is NOT fine
- A guild accepts all mobs that come with the CT engage

Draco
- Pullable (requires the pull to reach destination)
Must state pulling - in shout

[Kunark World Dragons: Sev, Fay, Tal, Gore]
- Pullable (requires the pull to reach destination)
Must state pulling - in shout

Trak
- Must be killed in Lair
- Jugg camping must be done outside locked door if a guild also wants to attempt trakanon during his window

VS
- Must be killed in his room or pit

Vox
- Must be killed in Lair

Naggy
- Must be killed in Lair

[Sky Raid targets]
- Pullable (requires the pull to reach destination)
Must state pulling - in shout
- All other sky raid rules still apply

No pull juggling - you get 1 pull shout, if you lose aggro, you (the pullers) must wait for the raid target to reset to it's natural path/spawn point before you can pull/shout again.
- A guild, who hasn't used a pull shout, can aggro and pull at any period that a raid target is unengaged.

No socking raid forces within aggro range
No socking raid forces in zones
No sitting on spawn points for FTE

Guilds allowed 1 Tracker in the zone
Guilds allowed to bring in players to buff and camp out
Guilds not allowed to sit players in a zone for more than 10 minutes. Get your buffs and log out or log out and wait for your buffer to come available for buffs.


VP (stays the same)

If You want to petition a guild, you must have fraps of the violation with Screenshots and logs being preferred alongside the video evidence. All pullers should run fraps ideally.

Figured I'd add something non-silly-ish.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is an overhaul I wrote up a few weeks ago that I sent to Sirken (he never replied). I later (a week or two after sending it to Sirken) sent it to Tarathiel of BDA (who seemed to like some/most of it) and to Zagum of TMO (idk if he ever looked at it tho).



Figured I'd add something non-silly-ish.

Not too bad