Veeshan's Peak - Non disputable zone - Page 10

SamwiseRed · #1 01-09-2013, 03:52 PM

so glad i dont have to deal with man babies over raid content. pathetic really.

Ouzin · #2 01-09-2013, 03:59 PM

A lot of this banter could be solved by instancing zones with high end content. That would kill the community though. All the trolls which feed off these disputes would leave. All that would be left is the rest of the server to enjoy high end loots.

Actually, that sounds pretty nice.

arsenalpow · #3 01-09-2013, 04:06 PM

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A lot of this banter could be solved by instancing zones with high end content. That would kill the community though. All the trolls which feed off these disputes would leave. All that would be left is the rest of the server to enjoy high end loots.

Actually, that sounds pretty nice.

I don't mind competing, I just don't want to compete under an absurd set of rules that are completely contrary to the rest of the server's rules. I've listed numerous reasons as to why changing VP would be a boon for the server, I've tried to present the argument logically and I'd like to see some discourse opposing this position aside from typical response of "NERT CLASSERC!"

Zeelot · #4 01-09-2013, 04:06 PM

Training during raids is different than training individually or in a group circumstance. The difference being that entire guilds can be punished for the actions of leadership + the merit of who gets the kill can also be affected.

Training outside a raid scenario is different because it does not involve stopping 20+ players from getting something that only spawns once/week-ish.

Raid disputes are limited to 3 main things imo: training during *raid encounters*, FTE determinations, and kiting.

There are raid rules for these specific things. If you don't realize this by now you are a lost cause!

Elements · #5 01-09-2013, 04:15 PM

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Training during raids is different than training individually or in a group circumstance. The difference being that entire guilds can be punished for the actions of leadership + the merit of who gets the kill can also be affected.

Training outside a raid scenario is different because it does not involve stopping 20+ players from getting something that only spawns once/week-ish.

Raid disputes are limited to 3 main things imo: training during *raid encounters*, FTE determinations, and kiting.

There are raid rules for these specific things. If you don't realize this by now you are a lost cause!

Sorry but your made up clauses and interpretations are not included in the stickied Global Rules located in the library and therefore I give zero f*cks. Training a zone of 20 newbs whose playtime spawns maybe once a week and training a raid of 20 going after a week long spawn target is the same thing... training. By the way arent youcurrently suspended for repeatedly breaking the rules? So why should anyone care what you think when youclearly have no regard for the others on this server?

arsenalpow · #6 01-09-2013, 04:18 PM

I have no problem with being punished as a guild. In fact most times I'd prefer guilds be punished over singular parties, but that's something else entirely.

I don't think you'd have much of a kiting problem in VP so you can probably rule that out. I don't think training will be an issue because I feel like raid forces won't stray from the pull spots, particularly the entrance of VP, or they'll just be cothed to a kill location because that's much easier than herding 40+ cats through the minefield that is VP. FTE probably won't be an issue because it will be much like a Fay encounter, tag/pull inc log in ASAP.

Zeelot · #7 01-09-2013, 04:21 PM

I am suspended? Lol, first I have heard. I thought I would give a common sense explanation on what rules are raid rules and which ones aren't. Obviously is not hard to distinguish because raid rules apply when there are raids going on. If you need a rule faq to know what constitutes a raid, go ask Rogean.

Alarti0001 · #8 01-09-2013, 04:25 PM

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I am suspended? Lol, first I have heard. I thought I would give a common sense explanation on what rules are raid rules and which ones aren't. Obviously is not hard to distinguish because raid rules apply when there are raids going on. If you need a rule faq to know what constitutes a raid, go ask Rogean.

Ya you are obviously suspended! Just like Fauss. Just ask Chest or Jarnauga.

arsenalpow · #9 01-09-2013, 04:32 PM

I'm betting Ascention is confusing you with Sentenza, and how do I request my face to face with Fauss the Great & Powerful

Alarti0001 · #10 01-09-2013, 04:36 PM

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I'm betting Ascention is confusing you with Sentenza, and how do I request my face to face with Fauss the Great & Powerful

Still believes Fauss is suspended. The power of faith people.

Chest would you like to make a 100k wager that he isn't suspended?