Enchanter Charm/Cha Tests

[Splorf22]

I did read the EQEMU source code; it's why I went full int on Loraen. However the charm code here is totally different.

And yes, I would prefer 100 samples for each but that's just a bit much work for one person!

[Raemius]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did read the EQEMU source code; it's why I went full int on Loraen. However the charm code here is totally different.

And yes, I would prefer 100 samples for each but that's just a bit much work for one person!

How is it different? Is there something factual you are basing this on? Based on my experience with charm vs. the src code, it feels pretty close to me. That's why I went MAX charisma except when raiding.

It could be placebo effect, but there seems to be a small but definite difference of 220 cha vs 255.

[Raemius]

Also, Rogean has been known in the past to post code snippets of certain mechanics. Perhaps he or Nilbog would be willing to just paste the mechanics portion of charisma on charm?

[Splorf22]

When I read the EQEMU source code the only effect of charisma on charm was +1 tick for every 25 or something. If you get the charm mechanics out of Kanras, please let me know [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[gotrocks]

any chance of doing another ~100 vs 200 test splorf?

i read the first one and for the most part agree with you - the data points to charisma having a noteworthy affect on charms up to 200, but is still inconclusive due to lack of data. would love to see someone repeat this test, parse, an do it about 10-20 times to see what the result is. I would do it but im currently too poor to afford charisma gear to put my dark elf ench at 200 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

plus im saving all my money for my shaman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] gotta afford torpor at 60 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Extunarian]

... but its also quite possible a lot of it is leveraged.

I believe Haynar, Uthgaard, Kanras, and maybe even rogean, have all worked on the charm mechanics in the past, and it's my understanding that at this point they've completely replaced whats in the stock eqemu code for charm duration.

Anyone who has used charm regularly throughout the server's lifetime can tell you that there have clearly been some major overhauls to those mechanics.

[Clark]

good thread

[Trader1]

Yes charm on p99 has most definitely changed. When the server first opened through probably hate release or so charm used to last almost full duration 15 min or so. This was one of the main reason I rolled a chanter. I mean there was a very small chance of it breaking earlier then the full duration but I am talk really small chance. Like, I would not be hesitant to charm anything them afk for 10 minutes.
So there has been modifications to the charm code here most definitely.

[Phinger]

Here's some charm data from last night in HS...didn't have enough time to get a ton of data so i kept my same gear setup, 217cha and level 46 mob. Pardon the formatting, doing it from my phone. Looks pretty random to me with a constant cha.

Start Break Duration total sec

11:20:25 PM 11:28:22 PM 07:57 477

11:28:38 PM 11:47:49 PM 19:11 1151

11:48:06 PM 11:57:08 PM 09:02 542

11:56:24 PM 11:59:57 PM 03:33 213

12:01:03 AM 12:03:15 AM 02:12 132

12:03:35 AM 12:04:58 AM 01:23 83

12:05:04 AM 12:11:11 AM 06:07 367

12:11:34 AM 12:14:41 AM 03:07 187

12:16:07 AM 12:18:58 AM 02:51 171

12:25:00 AM 12:29:38 AM 04:38 278

12:39:27 AM 12:44:18 AM 04:51 291

12:45:00 AM 12:50:52 AM 05:52 352

12:51:22 AM 1:10:31 AM 19:09 1149

total 5393 seconds

total 89.88 minutes

average 415 seconds

average 6.914103 minutes

[Splorf22]

L53 Ilis Wizard, 226 cha: average 93 seconds

[Mon Jan 14 21:19:06 2013] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 111s
[Mon Jan 14 21:20:57 2013] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.
[Mon Jan 14 21:21:15 2013] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 193s
[Mon Jan 14 21:24:28 2013] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.
[Mon Jan 14 21:24:53 2013] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 48s
[Mon Jan 14 21:25:41 2013] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.
[Mon Jan 14 21:25:54 2013] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 65s
[Mon Jan 14 21:26:59 2013] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.
[Mon Jan 14 21:27:23 2013] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 42s
[Mon Jan 14 21:28:05 2013] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.