Moving from blue - Trying to get a feel.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ecoli you should come back, and give it another shot....I'm willing to give you another shot (after you left us in FF)

don't leave your toon on AFK, and lets see how ya do

The only way i can see myself playing this emu again is if they do something about the xp loss, which i dont think they will.

Might like EQ better over WoW in terms of difficulty, rareness of items, fun twinkage, (the economy on Rallos, but killed here cuz of no item loot) but at least in WoW i can smoke a joint, have some pvp for 3-4 hours, go back to doing a dungeon run without losing any PVE progress.

Even Eve online doesnt have such a harsh penalty for pvping. Yeah if u roll in the big leagues, you can lose a space station, a capital ship but once u get some money rolling you can pvp all day in a cruiser or frig if thats what you want to do.

Still, its the same reason why i left eve online, the ratio of fun vs work.

To me, grinding back xp in EQ PVE is hard work. Like breaking rocks in a prison.
If im playing as i want to, meaning loads of pvp, Im gonna die, thats for sure, probably more than twice a day for say, 5 hours pvp. That means if i do that for a week, thats FOURTEEN HOURS of backlogged PVE i gotta maintain.

Thats alot more work to me vs fun.

More power to you if you can pvp 5 hours a day, 5 days a week and log only 1 death but thats not whats my experience is like, and im sure its not 95% of the experience of anyone on the server either.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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More power to you if you can pvp 5 hours a day, 5 days a week and log only 1 death but thats not whats my experience is like, and im sure its not 95% of the experience of anyone on the server either.

Obviously someone isn't telling the truth when everyone says they pvp all the time yet no one is actually dying. One reason Yellow Text would be nice.

Although one problem may be that everyone gates or plugs and not one actually does die after 5 hours of PvP, which isn't fun at all.

[Tomatoking]

i been logging on steady to check pops for a week or so , average pop is less then 5 nilly and less then 5 FR

yall said you didnt have the numbers to do harder stuff or try to wipe nilly on their publicly posted raid schedule , when i joined plug first raid was 35+ people

even after merge every night we had tons , nothing was planned , no events happened and numbers dwindled to shit

you guys dont seem to understand if you dont PLAN things ahead of time you have no business being in charge of a guild.

because everyone quit due to nothing going on

[Andis]

huggies we know exactly what we are doing

its fucking xmas, not many people log in during the holidays.

thanks for your input tho. was really thought out.

[Andis]

Ecoli, if you have the attitude that you're gonna die, then guess what, you're gonna die. It's simple as that. When you roll with a guild and you put into guild events, the guild will return the favor.

It sounds like at the moment you roll around solo, and that is why you get killed alot.

Roll with a guild that knows what's going on, grp with the guild, get your exp, and don't put yourself in a position where you might die. You are a caster with gate, if theres a bunch of people in your zone you know will PVP, then guess what either gate or camp till it smooths down.

You need a better attitude and seems to me some guidance in how to win Red99, let us show you that way.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ecoli, if you have the attitude that you're gonna die, then guess what, you're gonna die. It's simple as that. When you roll with a guild and you put into guild events, the guild will return the favor.

It sounds like at the moment you roll around solo, and that is why you get killed alot.

Roll with a guild that knows what's going on, grp with the guild, get your exp, and don't put yourself in a position where you might die. You are a caster with gate, if theres a bunch of people in your zone you know will PVP, then guess what either gate or camp till it smooths down.

You need a better attitude and seems to me some guidance in how to win Red99, let us show you that way.

I dont get killed alot.

Saidin caught me once AFK, Troriste and Renian too, and thrilla killed me while i was at the hospital and got deleveled to 53. Thats my 4 deaths in like 2 weeks 8 hours a day. It would have been 0 if i had been actively at the keyboards (Im camping some solo mob and selling/buying comic books on ebay).

I do exactly what you are saying, i didnt last 3 years in Eve online by being a clueless noob. Gate or camp when i know i cant win. I click that /who like a pro, its a habit from eve online where you always check whos in the zone before attempting to cross out of a zone. I mean, i was doing this 11 years ago too, on Rallos lol.

When i talk about the pvp id like to see, im mostly referring to around that time in FF when we had that big fight with Nihilum in Lavastorm. I died maybe 3-4 times in 2 hours. Thats to be expected. If you do attempts at 20vs20, someone is going to die, its almost inevitable.

This happened maybe 2-3 times to me on the box, some big battles like that. I mean that lasts more than 1-2 rounds. That people actually stay in the zone and fight, like we were on a pvp server. Thats what i want. Every day. Thats my fun.

When im talking about xp loss, Im not really talking about me, me, me, about how i do not like dying because then blablabla... Im thinking in terms of whats good for the server. In terms of why is it nobody came in Fear to cockblock us when i was in Nihilum for a month. It is evidently because of the xp loss. You have to see bigger than "I must be crying because i suck at the game". The way the server is set up, means that whoever has the biggest roster, wins. Its as simple as that. If you have a ratio of players like 3/8 5/8 then maybe skill will matter more than numbers. But thats not how it was back this spring when i was in Nihilum.

XP loss demands that after an hour or two of big battles, the losing side retreats to lick its wounds for days if not a week. So if a side has quite a larger amount of players online, which was the story of this server for alot of its history, then nobody wants to attempt it even if trying would be fun. Trying at 90% chance of failure resulting in harsh xp loss, good luck trying to convince people to pvp with you. If you are able to take a hard honest look at how it was back in the spring, you will admit that FF did not try often to go inside fear to try to stop NIhilum farming. And thats because of the xp loss.

Yeah the server might be better right now, because FR and NIH have numbers that makes it sort of even. But if FR ever gains the upper hand and makes half of NIHI quit, the server will be back to shit again. This emu requires too much time investment for me to have this sort of variables left to luck.

At least if they would revisit the amount you lose on each death, i might reconsider hanging my red99 jersey

[Andis]

I understand what your saying, and that type of PVP will be happening in the future, I can assure you, as long as Nihilum actually grow a pair to fight us. Lately they have been avoiding raid pvp-by slaying the mob then logging off.

When you do die, it is crucial to get that rez. Pve rez you got time, when you die PvP, you consent and you immediately log off to save rez timer.

Just man up, get back on the box and start exp, hit me up in game, we can get ya started again.

[Tomatoking]

ecoli is a good guy , bind camping him off the server was horrible imo

exp loss in pvp = worst idea ever but its obvious staff dont care

only have 2 options now guys

shit the forum up

or quit

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Tomatoking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ecoli is a good guy , bind camping him off the server was horrible imo

exp loss in pvp = worst idea ever but its obvious staff dont care

only have 2 options now guys

shit the forum up

or quit

I didnt get bind camped, that was actually my fault.

Thrilla killed me once and i was out of the house at the hospital, forgot all about EQ when my mom landed in my pad hysterical about how my nephew broke his arm.

My fault is that i bound at pots not on the things, but in the water. Its a old habit from eve online where you dont actually port on the gate, but 250km away so you can scout the gate to see if there is someone camping it.

I didnt take into consideration that someday something like this might happen and i would leave the game on and drown myself out of 6 levels.

[Tomatoking]

holy fuck i thought you got bind camped

those corpses are rezzable , gms didnt help you?

btw do you still got an eve online account? i need an account i can get plexes via buddy invites , im willing to keep it open indefinitley if you want to train inactive , pm me ( or anyone else )