Camping Raid Mobs... gone on long enough ?!

[Kinamur1999]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah. No. If I am camping a mob that has a 22 minute timer, I will not be tabbed in for 21 of those 22 minutes. Gonna have to be way longer than standard repop times there, broski.

Tabbed in okay, but completely afk i have to disagree with.

Your character being online doesn't mean dick to me, if 10 of your 15 force has been afk at work for the past 8 hours thats not part of your 15 imo. Thats bullshit.

How can you claim that you have a 15 player force ready for the boss when it pops when you really only have 5. I'm sorry if people feel they deserve a mob for being logged in for most of the timer but if you aren't there, how the fuck can you claim it?

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Kinamur1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tabbed in okay, but completely afk i have to disagree with.

Your character being online doesn't mean dick to me, if 10 of your 15 force has been afk at work for the past 8 hours thats not part of your 15 imo. Thats bullshit.

How can you claim that you have a 15 player force ready for the boss when it pops when you really only have 5. I'm sorry if people feel they deserve a mob for being logged in for most of the timer but if you aren't there, how the fuck can you claim it?

This is a presumptuous post.

[Kinamur1999]

If people are legit sitting at their pc for 3 days straight then good job they deserve it, but somehow i doubt it.

Sleeping for 8 hours logged in does NOT mean you're camping dick, in my book.

Yes, I think you should have to be at your screen waiting for the pop to claim camping. That's how I did manastone for 20+hours straight, i didn't sleep for half of it and have a friend text me when it dropped so I could loot.

Pretty sure I've read a post or 2 about people sleeping while "camping" or even going to work. Its bullshit, In my opinion, if thats how the devs want it to happen then awesome good job.

[Skope]

I don't understand why people are complaining about the current state of raiding -- at least those of you in IB/DA -- but won't push for an FFA with a small rule set, like no stealing mobs, no training and first to engage gets the first shot. It would solve a LOT of the inherent problems within the current rules yet still allow those who are dedicated to do just as well as they have been doing thus far (hell, even better actually). Instead it's been about 10 pages of bickering and flaming and finger-pointing with no solutions. As i said before, i'm tired of having my friends list shortened because of a stubborn few and watching dirtbags join and drop just so you can keep up your numbers.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand why people are complaining about the current state of raiding -- at least those of you in IB/DA -- but won't push for an FFA with a small rule set, like no stealing mobs, no training and first to engage gets the first shot. It would solve a LOT of the inherent problems within the current rules yet still allow those who are dedicated to do just as well as they have been doing thus far (hell, even better actually). Instead it's been about 10 pages of bickering and flaming and finger-pointing with no solutions. As i said before, i'm tired of having my friends list shortened because of a stubborn few and watching dirtbags join and drop just so you can keep up your numbers.

To the best of my knowledge, IB has wanted FFA since before I started playing on the server. It's my understanding that the staff wants a more structured situation, but that's from hearsay and rumors; I've never communicated directly with any member of the staff about it.

[Otto]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To the best of my knowledge, IB has wanted FFA since before I started playing on the server. It's my understanding that the staff wants a more structured situation, but that's from hearsay and rumors; I've never communicated directly with any member of the staff about it.

All true, but it is not hearsay and rumors.

Wenai and Aeolwind have specifically stated that the FFA kind of raid environment will not exist here. To the boards as well as myself

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm tired of having my friends list shortened because of a stubborn few...

This part of your post is ridiculous. Not you saying it, but the fact that there are people in the game that would willingly lose a friend over this shit... not naming names.

[Deric]

If people want to sit at a location for days on end to get their pixels you won't be able to stop them. I'm surprised there has been no amendment to the rules that would allow for multiple raid forces to camp and simply have them /random if mob pops between those present.

If anything this would detour guilds from camping(for the full 5 days) as they would not be guaranteed the mob regardless of how long they sit there.

[Skope]

Just a few rules implemented so there's no real bad blood between guilds and it doesn't get out of hand, something like I stated before:

No trains
No Stealing of pulls/mobs
First to engage gets a shot without outside interference.

Should allow for guilds to clear/camp/track or whatever strategy they would like but still enough as to keep them from getting at each others' throats because of accusations of unfair play.

[rioisk]

You are right pyro, people will just install a macro. I guess this wouldn't work unless GMs sent random tells and banned people if they somehow stayed in game and "moving" enough to not get logged out. Of course this won't happen though.

I too think that people should be at their keyboard for the full duration in order to claim raid mobs. If a whole guild sits at their screens for 8hrs+ they deserve what they get.