And I raaaaaan, I raaaan so far awaaaayyyy

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by Shinko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what happen?

One idiot cried about something another idiot did.

[quido]

Man I wish I could have been there =(

[Frieza_Prexus]

I also think it's relevant to point out that the "rule" has been First to Engage. This does not necessarily mean that being first on the aggro log is that you are first to engage.

Yes, the aggro logs and FTE have been treated very synonymously, but there is still argument that a distinction exists. Perhaps, the aggro logs are simply one informative facet as to who got FTE, though they have been indisputably convenient in making determinations when no GMs are present.

Perhaps an encounter such as CT already DOES have a mechanism to determine who has FTE. Under this theory, TMO's raid engaged the mob first. Even though the logs were clean at the time of Scorchin's DT, it is indisputable that TMO engaged with the first DT. There is no other reasonable explanation for the guild's activities in taking the first DT and charging the mob OTHER than intent to engage.

In short, first to engage is not necessarily synonymous with being first on any particular instance of the encounter logs. Perhaps the rules were followed to the letter here. Perhaps first to engage is a broad concept that can, from time to time, require a factual inquiry into the situation.

[hatelore]

These meme's seriously got me rolling on the floor laughing, thats about the only good thing about this thread. haha

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also think it's relevant to point out that the "rule" has been First to Engage. This does not necessarily mean that being first on the aggro log is that you are first to engage.

Yes, the aggro logs and FTE have been treated very synonymously, but there is still argument that a distinction exists. Perhaps, the aggro logs are simply one informative facet as to who got FTE, though they have been indisputably convenient in making determinations when no GMs are present.

Perhaps an encounter such as CT already DOES have a mechanism to determine who has FTE. Under this theory, TMO's raid engaged the mob first. Even though the logs were clean at the time of Scorchin's DT, it is indisputable that TMO engaged with the first DT. There is no other reasonable explanation for the guild's activities in taking the first DT and charging the mob OTHER than intent to engage.

In short, first to engage is not necessarily synonymous with being first on any particular instance of the encounter logs. Perhaps the rules were followed to the letter here. Perhaps first to engage is a broad concept that can, from time to time, require a factual inquiry into the situation.

This is simply wrong. FTE is defined as first on the aggro list of the mob given that the mob is killed without resetting. That's it.

[Grahm]

Originally Posted by Grahm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shud be a new rule.........who ever calls out a raid mob with the LEAST amount of players gets dibs, but HAS to kill the mob with that amount of players.

TMO calls trak with 15....BDA can call it with 14 players...tmo can then lower there number to 13...etc etc

Shows the most skill IMO and lowers poop socking. Can track for 2 days for trak, have 40 man raid....as long as 10+ opposing guild shows up and call they want to go at it with 10-39 players and then first guild can either barter to there 38 players or let BDA try it with 10 and if they wipe first guild gets free raid mob. If they kill mob, then props to them for having the balls to do it with so little.

Should should be the "players rotation" instead of them actually agreeing on rotation for actual free mobs. cause no matter what fuck GM forced raid rules. (clearly other than KSing / training etc etc.)

[Tanthallas]

Why are you so fucking stupid?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you so fucking stupid?

Why can you never provide a single shred of evidence and immediately resort to personal attacks?

[Tanthallas]

Because you are incomprehensibly stupid. I am still trying to figure out if you really are this dumb, or if you just pretend to be this dumb.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because you are incomprehensibly stupid. I am still trying to figure out if you really are this dumb, or if you just pretend to be this dumb.

More evidence less personal attacks.... come one you can do it? Can't you?

Want to know what is stupid? Thinking people would believe you were trying to solo pull CT to your raid....DERP!