Sorry Conservatives, but Obama looks like he has this one in the bag

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in my opinion Obama has done everything wrong, and the things I've posted have been major things while your list of things was mostly minor, i.e. letting military people see their families. So it seems you basically agree that Obama has been bad, you just think of Romney as two-timing slime and even worse.

But, lets step back a second. Since Romney has basically promised everything to everyone, what will he do in office? Let's look at Romney's record. He's rescued multiple organizations from bankruptcy and actually invented Obamacare, if you are into that nationalized healthcare thing. If we are comparing records, Romney's is about a million times better. And I prefer to look at what people do rather than what they say.

That's exactly how I feel. I'm not a huge Romney fan at all, but I don't really care what he says -- or what Obama says -- on the campaign trail. They're all full of shit. I don't care to differentiate the degrees of bullshit.

[Sirken]

and now after reading my responses im seeing that you have backed me into a "pro-Obama" person, and that's also not the case. as i said earlier in this thread,

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obama is very far from the "perfect" president, dont get me wrong. but the republicans nominated the absolute worst person they could have possibly ran.

[Pringles]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• Cut prescription drug cost for medicare recipients by 50%
  
• Provided $12.2 Billion in new funding for Individuals With Disabilities Education Act
  
• Signed financial reform law establishing a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to look out for the interests of everyday Americans
  
• Signed financial reform law allowing shareholders of publicly traded companies to vote on executive pay
  
• Signed financial reform law requiring lenders to verify applicants' credit history, income, and employment status
  
• Signed financial reform law prohibiting banks from engaging in proprietary trading (trading the bank's own money to turn a profit, often in conflict with their customers' interests)
  
• The American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009: a $789 billion economic stimulus plan
  
• Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
  
• Voluntary disclosure of White House visitors for the first time in US history
  
• Appointed first Latina to the US Supreme Court
  
• Promoted social responsibility through creation of serve.gov, a national database of volunteer opportunities
  
• Reversed 'global gag rule', allowing US aid to go to organizations regardless of whether they provide abortions
  
• Signed New START Treaty - nuclear arms reduction pact with Russia
  
• First president to endorse same-sex marriage equality
  
• Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers
  
• Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
  
• Reversed the policy of barring media coverage during the return of fallen soldiers to Dover Air Force Base
  
• Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse
  
• Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America's Veterans
  
• Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides health care to 11 million kids -- 4 million of whom were previously uninsured
  
• Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research
  
• Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first piece of comprehensive legislation aimed at improving the lives of Americans living with paralysis

You forgot the part about Obama increasing the national debt 52% in one term.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You forgot the part about Obama increasing the national debt 52% in one term.

Because Obama signed the legislation to enact this?

[happyhappy]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You forgot the part about Obama increasing the national debt 52% in one term.

You forgot the part where he did it in order to fix the mess Bush started.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by happyhappy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You forgot the part where he did it in order to fix the mess Bush started.

You don't fix a mess by adding 6 trillion to the deficit (which didn't work anyway).

[Kope]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't fix a mess by adding 6 trillion to the deficit (which didn't work anyway).

In all honesty a large portion of that was for the banks and the auto industry.

1) the banks were in deep crud and weren't loaning money which halted the economy. The US government stepped in and bailed out the banks and then gave them even more money so they could loan it out to get the economy started again (economy has grown since).

2) the Auto industry bailouts did save the American auto companies from going bankrupt so they stopped hemorrhaging jobs and actually started adding on.

I'm not going to put my own opinions on either of these events, but we did get pulled out of hemorrhaging jobs and a downward spiraling economy. If you don't think we're doing better than we were I have a few economists that would like to have a discussion with you.

*edit* just a side point about the debt/deficit. The 2 wars weren't put on the books until Obama took office.

BTW I'm not voting for Obama, or Romney :P