Velious Nerf List

[Droog007]

At some point the warders started spawning again, sans Kerafyrm... I'm not sure when, but I never laid eyes on one until they were 1-groupable (yay dwarf mask). Seems well within the scope of P1999 for them to start spawning again... simply because it's Velious content with Velious loot... was there ever a lore explanation for this?

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At some point the warders started spawning again, sans Kerafyrm... I'm not sure when, but I never laid eyes on one until they were 1-groupable (yay dwarf mask). Seems well within the scope of P1999 for them to start spawning again... simply because it's Velious content with Velious loot... was there ever a lore explanation for this?

I don't think some of you realize it is not that easy.

It is not Velious content with Velious loot, it was added in Planes of Power.

Sleeper's Tomb was revamped with a bunch of different quests/items etc.

(You want a revamped ST? Then you are going to get a revamped Skyshrine too.)

Some of these items have spells THAT WERE NOT AVAILABLE in the Velious era.

Custom content possibly, but anything done to ST after Kerafyrm is awakened in the regular Velious era will not happen.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think some of you realize it is not that easy.

It is not Velious content with Velious loot, it was added in Planes of Power.

Sleeper's Tomb was revamped with a bunch of different quests/items etc.

(You want a revamped ST? Then you are going to get a revamped Skyshrine too.)

Some of these items have spells THAT WERE NOT AVAILABLE in the Velious era.

Custom content possibly, but anything done to ST after Kerafyrm is awakened in the regular Velious era will not happen.

I don't know that much about the ST "revamp". I raided ST before that went in... I think it was probably post-awakening, but my guild was only able to do the mini-bosses anyway. However - I did go in much, much later to kill warders with a small strike team. The loot all seemed to be ancient garbage - quest junk for Plane of Mischief and so forth. I don't think the revamp did much to these particular loot tables - am I wrong?

All I'm saying is... if there was an official explanation for why the warders started spawning again post-awakening, it was probably pretty thin. Why make them go away in the first place? Maybe give 'em a month paid vacay after Kerafyrm has his little tantrum.

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know that much about the ST "revamp". I raided ST before that went in... I think it was probably post-awakening, but my guild was only able to do the mini-bosses anyway. However - I did go in much, much later to kill warders with a small strike team. The loot all seemed to be ancient garbage - quest junk for Plane of Mischief and so forth. I don't think the revamp did much to these particular loot tables - am I wrong?

All I'm saying is... if there was an official explanation for why the warders started spawning again post-awakening, it was probably pretty thin. Why make them go away in the first place? Maybe give 'em a month paid vacay after Kerafyrm has his little tantrum.

There was a revamp early PoP/late Luclin that removed "Primal" weapons and replaced it with "Ancient Prismatic" weapons or something to that effect. It also re-added dragons, but their loot wasn't particularly out-of-scale for Velious. It was just different than the Warders.

Edit: Changes were made just a few months before PoP according to post dates on alla's:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=16074

[pasi]

The ST Revamp loot is quite a bit better than the original ST loot (minus Shroud and SoD, but plus a bunch of stuff); however, it's just top of the line Velious stuff - not even Luclin Raid quality.

[bizzum]

Item for the quest is a rare groundspawn.

[ArumTP]

Rogean himself said BFG would be available for a limited period of time. He was in EC showing it off and made mention of it.

[Darian]

Pretty sure Circlet of Shadow/s nerf went in during Velious as well

[Muleworth]

I imagine the people that moved to the Mac server will come back to kill the final warder just for the massive waves of tears it would obviously cause, before retreating to their server.

Hilarious there's really nothing anyone can do about it, TMO's ultimate reckoning.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Muleworth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I imagine the people that moved to the Mac server will come back to kill the final warder just for the massive waves of tears it would obviously cause, before retreating to their server.

Hilarious there's really nothing anyone can do about it, TMO's ultimate reckoning.

They would need to key up first, and they are soft since they've been using AA and Luclin/PoP buffs.