Do you think it is socially acceptable for to be proud in being white? - Page 8

Alawen · #71 10-29-2012, 09:35 PM

Minnesota is very Teutonic, mostly German and Swedish. Back a hundred years ago, the Finns living up in the Iron Range were considered colored. Southern Europeans were also considered colored in much of the United States.

Koreans and Japanese are so genetically similar that they're difficult to differentiate from DNA. People who identify as Hispanic or Latino have a mixture of indigenous, European, and African blood.

Race is mostly a social construct. We're the same species. We don't even have sub-species. The boundaries are complete fuzz. They don't even collect data about race and ethnicity in most of the world outside the United States. I hope we get over it within my lifetime.

Autotune · #72 10-29-2012, 09:40 PM

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Minnesota is very Teutonic, mostly German and Swedish. Back a hundred years ago, the Finns living up in the Iron Range were considered colored. Southern Europeans were also considered colored in much of the United States.

Koreans and Japanese are so genetically similar that they're difficult to differentiate from DNA. People who identify as Hispanic or Latino have a mixture of indigenous, European, and African blood.

Race is mostly a social construct. We're the same species. We don't even have sub-species. The boundaries are complete fuzz. They don't even collect data about race and ethnicity in most of the world outside the United States. I hope we get over it within my lifetime.

similar? yes.
same? no.

Might as well be comparing different breeds of dogs. Some breeds are just naturally smarter than other breeds.

Autotune · #73 10-29-2012, 09:46 PM

also, if blacks wanted credit for landing on the moon, they should have waited longer to fight for their freedom. Maybe Nasa would have let them pick the cotton that would end up in a space suit or something.

Hailto · #74 10-29-2012, 10:33 PM

You are certainly not black.

jijii · #75 10-29-2012, 10:40 PM

taking pride in very broad / general attributes that you just happened into, and had nothing to do with, does strike me as somewhat... i dunno what the word really is, but, "silly" comes to mind. i do think a lot of that depends on what you really mean when you say "pride" though.

think about the things you REALLY take pride in. usually they involve you having had to overcome some kind of obstacle to accomplish something. being white, especially in america, for the most part doesn't fit this classification of pride.

maybe not now, but not too long ago in this country being black or hispanic, and then being a generally successful person DEFINITELY did involve overcoming more obstacles, and would then under my classification of pride be more constituting of having pride in your ethnicity.

and again these are just broad generalizations and there are all kinds of nooks and cranny's and exceptions. all people of all ethnicities face or have faced difficult obstacles in their lives and will continue to do so forever.

but in general, if you're in the US you pretty much only have first world problems. and if you're in the US and you're also white, you probably don't even have those. if the hardest thing you face in any given day is getting your latte made wrong and having to study hard for an exam for 4 hours, wellllllll then there's probably not very many ppl interested in hearing about your massive, broad, sweeping, generalized racial pride.

even if it isn't fair.

(because life isn't)