Tranquil Staff: Need Before Greed? - Page 10

Furniture · #1 10-27-2012, 06:46 PM

One thing everyone is forgetting is that when you say "needs" an item, you are really saying "wants to upgrade that slot"

In no way does anyone actually "need" an item

Hailto · #2 10-27-2012, 06:51 PM

If an item isn't no-drop, it has the same potential to be an upgrade for anyone. Its pretty simple really, why has this thread even reached 12 pages, there's really nothing to argue here.

Furniture · #3 10-27-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If an item isn't no-drop, it has the same potential to be an upgrade for anyone. Its pretty simple really, why has this thread even reached 12 pages, there's really nothing to argue here.

exactly

Dantes · #4 10-27-2012, 07:31 PM

I used to be a hardcore NBG proponent, but not anymore. I can totally understand the other point of view now because the weapons I "need" don't even drop in the game anymore. Shit, I'd just go camp a RMoY if it still dropped, but it doesn't. I need one, therefore I need 50k. A T-Staff is a great way to work towards that. So a melee character is your only toon and he's your main? Same here. The only way I have to raise plat is to get lucky on a roll for an expensive item.

Thulack · #5 10-27-2012, 07:38 PM

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I used to be a hardcore NBG proponent, but not anymore. I can totally understand the other point of view now because the weapons I "need" don't even drop in the game anymore. Shit, I'd just go camp a RMoY if it still dropped, but it doesn't. I need one, therefore I need 50k. A T-Staff is a great way to work towards that. So a melee character is your only toon and he's your main? Same here. The only way I have to raise plat is to get lucky on a roll for an expensive item.

And i get that. But if there is a monk in the group and a Tstaff drops i just feel they should have first crack at it. I'm sure there are plenty of times when there are groups at the camp and there is no monk in group so its not like i'm saying every tstaff that drops should go to a monk but if ones there why not? I'm not gonna bother arguing with the people anymore and especially wouldnt argue with a fellow brellian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I'll just make sure before i join groups i ask what loot rules are.

Hailto · #6 10-27-2012, 07:55 PM

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And i get that. But if there is a monk in the group and a Tstaff drops i just feel they should have first crack at it. I'm sure there are plenty of times when there are groups at the camp and there is no monk in group so its not like i'm saying every tstaff that drops should go to a monk but if ones there why not? I'm not gonna bother arguing with the people anymore and especially wouldnt argue with a fellow brellian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I'll just make sure before i join groups i ask what loot rules are.

You're not going to find many pug's doing KC that are going to play with the idea that if a t-staff drops its automatically going to 1 person in the group, when everyone there is putting in equal time and effort. Best to join a guild, and group with guildies for this sort of thing.

Llodd · #7 10-27-2012, 08:07 PM

SO many factors probably involved.

To all the people that say NBG should be the sole priority I say this:

Imagine an up and coming monk that is also a part of a top guild that has the ability to easily just buy the staff for him without denting the guilds bank would you be happy for him to have it ?

Where do you draw the line here you NBGers? Is there a line? or is it black and white for you ?

Thulack · #8 10-27-2012, 11:43 PM

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SO many factors probably involved.

To all the people that say NBG should be the sole priority I say this:

Imagine an up and coming monk that is also a part of a top guild that has the ability to easily just buy the staff for him without denting the guilds bank would you be happy for him to have it ? YES

Where do you draw the line here you NBGers? Is there a line? or is it black and white for you ?

There is no line. If someone in group can equip the item and its a upgrade i wont roll. If no one else agrees and everyone rolls for greed anyway i will roll and if i win i give it to the toon that could use. Have done it in the past and will continue to do that way.

Pico · #9 10-27-2012, 08:24 PM

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This thread just sums up the stark contrasts between this server and an actual EQ server from 1999.

If you took a Tranquil staff while grouped with a monk who needed it back in 2000, your characters would have been blacklisted, if multiple people in the group had rolled on it and they decided whoever rolled the highest deserved it to sell instead of the monk who was going to use it, they would have all been blacklisted.

Having money to spend is not a need, having a new weapon that will greatly increase your DPS, which is 90% of a monks job, is a nice upgrade, and a need.

Same goes for a fungi tunic, though we all know that most people camping the fungi here usually aren't there for their first one. This server just has a bunch of min/maxers that think 30k in their pocket of disposable income is just as important as a monk's primary source of damage being upgraded. Hardly.

Of all classes, a monk. If someone made the mistake of making that for their first main here, unless they happened upon many frugal opportunities along their way up to 51/52 whatever the OP was, they're going to be dead broke.

A weapon that is an upgrade that they will be able to sell for a nice chunk of change after it gets replaced later on > selling the weapon for the SAME chunk of change without getting a single second of use out of it

u appear to have the critical thinking ability of a 6 yr old with low functioning autism

Ferok · #10 10-27-2012, 11:05 PM

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A weapon that is an upgrade that they will be able to sell for a nice chunk of change after it gets replaced later on > selling the weapon for the SAME chunk of change without getting a single second of use out of it

Why