So that's it for the election.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Reiker000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate to tell you but the election was "decided" a month or two ago.

Bilderberger meeting
31 May - 3 June 2012 apparently.

[Triangle]

As far as my rationale goes:
1) anecdotal: I get emails from people who are for Romney. They are laden with statements that he is a) muslim b) communist c) not born in America d) has worsened the state of our country.
Now hardcore right-wingers may fall into these beliefs, but the moderates (the ones that really pull the election one way or the other) are generally repulsed by these sorts of accusations and simply cannot relate to them. They cannot relate to them because none of them have been proven, its like that statement at the McCain rally back in 2008 where that lady asked why Obama was muslim or something and McCain had to tell her he isn't. Moderates don't like that type of shit and distance themselves from people who believe it.

2) My beliefs on the Republican foundation: The republican economic philosophy caters to the 1% - period. Don't try to tell me about the trickle down shit, it has been proven not to work in the Bush administration. So you ask, how can a party that caters to the 1% get the majority of a country to vote for them. It's simple, the republicans adopt a social philosophy which caters to the religious and the conservative.
There is an issue here though, the religious majority in our country are not Mormon and maybe they have never even met a Mormon. Certainly in the Southern states mormons are not easily found, and your typical southern baptist will not look at them the same way he will look at a Bush or a Reagan.
Secondly, Romney is unlike Bush because he does not talk with a drawl, he does not act like an idiot, and generally he shows that he is the upper echelon of society in every aspect of his life, including his dancing horse.
Bush may or may not be an idiot, a lot of people think so, but I truly believe that he faked being a "regular guy" to win votes in the South. His goal was to be likeable, a guy you want to have a beer with, and to a lot of people he was that guy. His goal was not to seem smart enough to steer our country in the right direction. Remember Bush Jr. was from a rich as fuck family from Connecticut, but he convinced a lot of people he was just like them.
Romney on the other hand cannot convince these religious folk that he is anywhere close to the same type of person they are, and he has not tried, similar to McCain actually.

3) Obama's 4 years so far: a) stock market up 50%; b) deficit decreased (not sure on %); c) unemployment decreased significantly; d) nothing majorly bad happened, even if you dont like obama care; d) bin laden killed; e) out of iraq

If you read all this, and I know its a book, and you still think Romney has a chance, then I have a bridge to sell you.

[MammothMafia]

ROFL you sound just like that moron obama


3) Obama's 4 years so far: a) stock market up 50%; b) deficit decreased (not sure on %); c) unemployment decreased significantly; d) nothing majorly bad happened, even if you dont like obama care; d) bin laden killed; e) out of iraq

a) after market crash and decline in credit rating not a valid point b) no... deficit is up 100% c) wow... really... you must be dumb. d) uhhh... housing.. thats pretty fucking bad. d) <again? another towel head has taken his place. e) we were just attacked on 911.. war not over.. dunno if u know but ppl are still FIGHTING out there.

[Lucky]

Uh no, Obama did not "win". Nobody won, especially sure as fuck not the American people.

Also FYI as of today Obama only has 271 electoral votes, and thats from Huffington Post's electoral outlook, a heavily communist propaganda rag fully in lockstep with him. You need 270 to win the election. So he is by all chances already behind, and has slowly been slipping, and will continue on this trend.

[Reiker000]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also FYI as of today Obama only has 271 electoral votes, and thats from Huffington Post's electoral outlook, a heavily communist propaganda rag fully in lockstep with him. You need 270 to win the election. So he is by all chances already behind, and has slowly been slipping, and will continue on this trend.

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obama only has 271 electoral votes. You need 270 to win the election.

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It wont be close, Obamas a goner

Are you really this bad at math?

Let me teach you how this works. On that map you linked, there are several states that are so undecided they can't say for certain who will get the electoral votes from that state. These are colored gold.

They represent 61 electoral votes that aren't added into either candidate's total yet.

However, (and I'll go slowly so you can understand the math) even if Romney wins all of these states (which is highly unlikely), he'll have:

206 + 61 = 267 electoral votes.

Now, I'm glad you Googled how many electoral votes a candidate needs to win a majority before posting your response. As you recall, that's 270. Therefore, under the highly unlikely event that Romney wins every undecided state, he still lacks enough electoral votes to beat Obama.

[Triangle]

I've got a post setup in ec forums betting on this with platinum if you are so confident mate, you should check it out =).

[Triangle]

Also looking at your stats Romney has 206, a lot less than 270, they seem to not be predicting the difficult states? otherwise where are the rest of the electoral votes. I mean What if Obama had 269 then Romney would have what 208? Who would win then?

[Lexical]

Yeah, Romney definitely did not do so hot this debate. Obama made he look like a self absorbed fool in multiple occasions during the debate. But I came on to give all the libertarians on this forum some great news! Gary Johnson will chime in his answers post the third debate so we can hear his stance and arguments. It will be on the youtube stream (youtube.com/politics for those who don't know) so you guys and gals are getting your voice heard.

I am also glad that this moderator had some gusto in her and kept the ball rolling.

Finally, my favorite part was Romney's explanation on how he wants "flexible and talented women." I got a good chuckle at the unintentional sexual innuendo. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lucky]

Well Obama actually only has 217 electoral "confirmed" (probably less, I mean the source is Huffington Post...)

But if Obama doesn't get 270, the vote goes to the House of Representatives. Currently controlled by the Republicans....

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well Obama actually only has 217 electoral "confirmed" (probably less, I mean the source is Huffington Post...)

But if Obama doesn't get 270, the vote goes to the House of Representatives. Currently controlled by the Republicans....

Look I am no Obama champion but if you take a closer look at the 217 confirmed states and do some research you will say that there is a very insignificant chance of them changing to Romney, just loook at the types of states in question.