So that's it for the election.

[Humerox]

Well it's not necessarily decreasing the defecit in the way that some people think. You have to have money to make money, and I think the same principle applies to an investment in real economic strength.

Personally I think the entire economic system will collapse no matter what, and we'll all be learning Chinese as a second language. But that's just me.

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Ferok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope, it's Mormons and abortions and gay marriage and guns and who has the silliest out of context quotes. Get your priorities straight.

you forgot big bird.

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by Reiker000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does God have to do with anything? I was mentioning the Mormon belief that Jesus visited the Jaredites, a clan of Israelites living in America 2000 years ago. There's been no scientific proof that the Jaredites even existed in the first place. You would think there would be artifacts, fossils, something...

And yes, of course Romney was "joking" about the airplane window thing. It's either the lamest and least funny joke of all time or his attempt at saving face for publicly looking like an idiot. You decide.

If Moses can part the Red Sea, Mormon Jesus can teleport.

Seriously, all religions have some stuff that, without context, seems pretty wacky. Focusing on that is missing the point in an attempt to belittle one's faith.

[Lucky]

This was more about the Alarti dumbfuck saying anyone who has ever believed in a God is some irrational nutcase whose ideas we should completely object so I threw out Ben Franklin and Einstein but obviously you can go down the list of millions of these kind of examples. Positive atheism is as blind as a faith.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was more about the Alarti dumbfuck saying anyone who has ever believed in a God is some irrational nutcase whose ideas we should completely object so I threw out Ben Franklin and Einstein but obviously you can go down the list of millions of these kind of examples. Positive atheism is as blind as a faith.

Derp
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods/deities. It has nothing to do with blindness just lack of evidence.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derp
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods/deities. It has nothing to do with blindness just lack of evidence.

Derp, I said positive atheism. Clearly you aren't as educated as you think you are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativ...sitive_atheism

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derp, I said positive atheism. Clearly you aren't as educated as you think you are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativ...sitive_atheism

Positive atheism is oxymoronic as it requires faith. You were basically wrong and were trying to limit your scope to seem more correct.

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was more about the Alarti dumbfuck saying anyone who has ever believed in a God is some irrational nutcase whose ideas we should completely object so I threw out Ben Franklin and Einstein but obviously you can go down the list of millions of these kind of examples. Positive atheism is as blind as a faith.

Belief in God is a cultural thing generally propogated to kids by parents. A mind virus, if you will. The fact that some smart people (eg you forgot Newton, Leonardo, etc.) does not provide positive proof of the existence of God, it just means smart people can as readily compartmentalize bat-shit crazy ideas as not so smart people. People that believe in God in the face of absolutely zero evidence have simply stuck their belief in the "believe without evidence" bucket even if the same people thing belief in UFOs, Bigfoot and Santa Clause are stupid.

Read "The Believing Brain" By Michael Shermer, "Demon Haunted World" by Carl Sagan and similar books if you want to see what the other side is saying. If not, try to snatch a breath occasionally while your head is shoved up your ass.

Regards,
Mg

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by mgellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Belief in God is a cultural thing generally propogated to kids by parents. A mind virus, if you will. The fact that some smart people (eg you forgot Newton, Leonardo, etc.) does not provide positive proof of the existence of God, it just means smart people can as readily compartmentalize bat-shit crazy ideas as not so smart people. People that believe in God in the face of absolutely zero evidence have simply stuck their belief in the "believe without evidence" bucket even if the same people thing belief in UFOs, Bigfoot and Santa Clause are stupid.

Read "The Believing Brain" By Michael Shermer, "Demon Haunted World" by Carl Sagan and similar books if you want to see what the other side is saying. If not, try to snatch a breath occasionally while your head is shoved up your ass.

Regards,
Mg

See, this is the problem with atheism. You have some retard on a gaming forum that can't get through a paragraph without a typo trying to explain that Newton, Da Vinci, and a good number of the greatest thinkers in the history of mankind are "bat-shit crazy" with their heads shoved up their ass, all the while explaining that a guy who was a door-to-door evangelist 30 years ago has all the answers.

Yes, Michael Shermer was a door to door, born again evangelist until ~1980. He went from one of the retards knocking on your door to tell you about the glory of Jesus to the founder of Skeptic magazine in 12 years. And he's your first reference? Really?

Yeah, that's totally the guy to set Isaac Newton straight.

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See, this is the problem with atheism. You have some retard on a gaming forum that can't get through a paragraph without a typo trying to explain that Newton, Da Vinci, and a good number of the greatest thinkers in the history of mankind are "bat-shit crazy" with their heads shoved up their ass, all the while explaining that a guy who was a door-to-door evangelist 30 years ago has all the answers.

Yes, Michael Shermer was a door to door, born again evangelist until ~1980. He went from one of the retards knocking on your door to tell you about the glory of Jesus to the founder of Skeptic magazine in 12 years. And he's your first reference? Really?

Yeah, that's totally the guy to set Isaac Newton straight.

I'm not a retard, my mom had me tested. And you're not worth editing for.

He obviously got better, went to school, got a degree in Psychology, and started making perfect sense. Amazing how education destroys religiousity.

Why don't you stop the ad hominum attacks and try attacking his ideas? Oh, you've never bothered to read his book? The Bible is good enough for you? Too bad.

Look at it this way - until very recently (and how safe it is to come out of the closet as an atheist is today is debatable) you could be burned, tortured, jailed, or at very least ostracised and shunned for not being the most fervant religious drone possible. So it makes it pretty hard to guage the religiosity of smart people until the 1800s.

Regards,
Mg