Class/Race Rant

[Teddie1056]

Halfling Warrior > Ogre Warrior...

But in all seriousness,

Halfling Warrior > Troll Warrior. That regen doesn't really matter. Halfling racial bonuses are the best in the game (resists, xp bonus, hide/sneak). Halfling Dex means they hold agro over a troll warrior. Only + for a troll is their Stamina. Plus we aren't evil.

[Grahm]

humans flying kick is fucking RAW. lol tail strike wutever. iksars wack

[rabuliz]

lmao =D

Sorry, was laughing about High Elf dildo hat comment ;p Quotes didn't come through.

[Picked]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Racial penalties remained until 2006 (Serpent's Spine expansion).

wow, I didn't realize they stayed in the game that long. I guess it was less noticeable by Velious. Being maxed on a stat was no big feat by that time. Maybe that's what got me thinking about why it might have been Luclin/Velious.

[falkun]

It was less noticable because the racial penalties are small compared to class penalties:

a hybrid penalty of 40% is much worse than a maximum racial penalty of 20%. Also, the average racial penalty is 4.2% vs. the average class penalty of 14.4%.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where does EQ lore say that barbarians can't be sneaky?

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I suppose they could if they didn't fart so god damn much. But they do, so they can't.

(oh and barbarians generally through myth and legend have tended to be foul loud mouthed noisy sons of bitches)

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Grahm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

humans flying kick is fucking RAW. lol tail strike wutever. iksars wack

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suppose they could if they didn't fart so god damn much. But they do, so they can't.

(oh and barbarians generally through myth and legend have tended to be foul loud mouthed noisy sons of bitches)

Here, let me help you with that...

(oh and barbarians generally through myth and legend have routinely been described as foul loud mouthed noisy sons of bitches by the more settled peoples they have been in conflict with)

Seriously.

There are no self-described "barbarian" peoples I know of in human history. The word is a deliberate insult born of xenophobia mixed with legitimate fear of being raided. You can be pretty damned confident (aka absolutely certain) that many of these "barbarians" had a need for and made regular use of stealthy scouts and spies.

[And now I feel dirty for feeding a troll.]

[Ele]

The wiki entry for "Barbarian" is fascinating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here, let me help you with that...

(oh and barbarians generally through myth and legend have routinely been described as foul loud mouthed noisy sons of bitches by the more settled peoples they have been in conflict with)

Seriously.

There are no self-described "barbarian" peoples I know of in human history. The word is a deliberate insult born of xenophobia mixed with legitimate fear of being raided. You can be pretty damned confident (aka absolutely certain) that many of these "barbarians" had a need for and made regular use of stealthy scouts and spies.

[And now I feel dirty for feeding a troll.]

Uh what? You do know the meaning of myth and legend ? Putting in some non sensical bold print doesn't change the meaning of what was said. I'll say it again for ya and even include some bold print!! Myth and legend

While it's true that the word barbarian is a descriptive term in human history that has been applied to many different races based on their actions, EQ has made it a race all of its own. It's not counter intuitive to try and extrapolate from our understanding of the word how such a race might be, and unfortunately it's not of the soft tredding angelic type!

Your counter troll has all but flogged the skin of this horse.