FTE is Fing stupid

[quido]

You're doing it wrong.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I want to say I remember reading somewhere that the majority of TMO tracking is done by only a handful of the guild's players. Lord knows I'm not going to be able to find the post, but I'll try.

Assuming I did actually read that though, it just seems to reinforce the whole "the players who are willing to invest the most time/energy into raiding are all in TMO, and that's why TMO gets most all of the raid mobs" rather than the "small guilds have fewer people to share the load, that's why we don't get kills."

Confirmed.

[Sadad]

A rotation isn't feasible right now, but the way our two guilds behave when a mob is low in window is silly. That's where we should work something out. If you guys ever decide you want to talk, I am willing to listen.

If you think that an agreement to avoid poopsocking the last 10-20% of a window is tantamount to a rotation, then I don't really know what to tell you.

[Daliant17447]

Originally Posted by Sadad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the way our two guilds behave when a mob is low in window is silly. That's where we should work something out. If you guys ever decide you want to talk, I am willing to listen.

When 2 guilds are sitting on a spawn point in a late window situation, the guild that gets the kill (experience) wins. Its better than leaving it up to RNG "seek-mode fte" nonsense. Also no GM involvement needed.

[Harazzer]

Still sorta RNG but still 100x better than the current situation.

[Maze513]

Originally Posted by Sadad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A rotation isn't feasible right now, but the way our two guilds behave when a mob is low in window is silly. That's where we should work something out. If you guys ever decide you want to talk, I am willing to listen.

If you think that an agreement to avoid poopsocking the last 10-20% of a window is tantamount to a rotation, then I don't really know what to tell you.

But what about them classic "Jugg raids" lol Trak under 5 hrs left in window usaly about 45-60 BDA show up to "Raid Juggs" ualy all standing around Tola spawn with a few in Trak agro range if not sitting on spawn... So even with the best of planning, things like this just set a standard. and Yes we DO expect you to live up to the conditions youve help to create.

[Acillatem]

My only gripe is with the "new guard" of TMO, who didn't put in the collective work that the old guard did and yet still feels the right to look down upon the rest of the server. Both parties know who they are.

Well, my only gripe with BDA is with the "new guard" of VDA who in my eyes are using BDA as an ends to a mean when they didn't give 2 shits about them a couple of months prior.

When TMO was raid suspended and BDA did this "goodwill" rotation back in June, I laughed a little on the inside. Becuz when IB/TMO were suspended in February (and I was still an officer in VD), I brought up doing a rotation with other guilds, or helping with epics, or just general good will, and the reactions of ALL the other VD Officers were "fuck that", "not a chance in hell", "I'm not tracking so other people can get epics", "fuk Ninik", and "this is our chance for loot". (those are exact quotes btw - I'm not just making shit up). A very "anti-server" attitude - and was honestly when I first started to grow a bit disgruntled with VD.

And the irony of it was a day later Stealin started pushing for Ninik's epic. And a week later TMO started the Endangered Species (ie a rotation of sorts). It made me sit and wonder "who's the bad guy here". I'm supposed to be in a guild who since inception has been a pinnacle of good will and fair play etc, yet the "bad guys" are taking a more "server friendly stance" than VD?

So as a member of the "New Guard, Inc.", I guess we feel the same way about each other [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rais]

You're already in TMO, you don't need to make up stuff to make it look better for you to join Ace. You pretty much have no idea what you're talking about and full of shit when it comes to anything VD. You weren't part of the guild nor the officer corp but only in name. Coldblooded wouldn't remove you even when _every_single_officer wanted you removed due to your inability at anything, much-less members of the guild asking who this Ace guy was.

The fact you even bring up Niniks epic is laughable. TMO and IB had the cleric epic on lockdown and had the only epics. Heaven forbid VD even get one, and it wasn't until TMO was raid suspended, did they say " oh let Ninik get her epic before VD people, I will kill ragefire if VD tries to get it etc etc. If you logged on at all you might have known what was going on, but you ran your mouth not knowing and people told you to shut up. We wanted 1 epic, and were more than happy to let Ninik have the 2nd one. So yea, also lets forget about the server repop when we left Trakanon, all Kunark dragons up and the Gods, and only killed vs for 24 hours for the other guilds. I'm sure that slipped your mind while headbanging away in your Trans Am with your mullet getting caught on your alligator clip earrings.


You brought up rotations with other guilds when you had no idea in the first place what was even taking place on this server since you never logged on. We even called you out on it on VD boards asking you wtf, since you clearly had no idea what was going on and you even went back and edited your post because of how stupid you looked. How the fact you can claim you were an officer, when all you did was relate to back the pvp days of Knights of the Rose, and never logged on to do anything but complain you were passed over for loot by people who attended more raids in the 2 weeks they were in the guild than the year+ you were in VD.


As for rotations :

Some people wanted a rotation, others didn't. It worked out for Trak for a while before it died off and I would almost say all 3 guilds we're prolly happy it did happen since it allowed people to do other things than camp out for Trakanon for 2 days. The problem came when a good handful of people wanted to go enter VP for VD. That's when the issues came up.

This server would be better off working together than pulling stupid shit like FTE. Hell make a open pact to not enter VP for a long period of time to get a Trakanon rotation. Yet I'm sure the only way you can win a rotation is to starve the person who has been feasting on him the past few months. Then they will give in. Otherwise you'll just play in to their own game of trying to get FTE rights by throwing something, exploiting training jugs over the water and on to the other guild, or FD to stand up as your guild engages. That's not competition, that's resorting to bullshit rule lawyering when you lose especially when the GMs will do anything about it, even on fraps.

I personally don't feel a FTE should would work, it's too manipulative just like FTE with a FD person. So when Yendor or a handful of other people stomp their feet saying it would be the end of all the raid evil, wait till that lvl 20 agros Trakanon with a SBI and kites him around while 40 people log in.

[Daliant17447]

Can't believe this is still in server chat

[Daliant17447]

oh hi rnf