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Old 09-04-2012, 10:09 AM
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Oh I get it, its like when someone preface's a statement with "no offense" and then say something highly offensive.

No offense, but you are an idiot.
I wanted to say something along these lines, but couldn't think of a good statement to use!

Also, I remembered that I'm a retard for wasting so much time on the forums and tried to leave the thread alone. Heh.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:52 AM
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Oh, no no no. Don't get all "How is this so hard for you to understand?" with me.

YOU are the one who said that TMO would raid JUST because they want to block everyone else from raiding. I questioned that a couple of times because it sounded like little more than a vengeful comment from someone who's on the losing end of things.

And now you are switching tunes to "I raid cause it's fun in and of itself" and acting like I'm dense for not understanding that raiding sans pixels/spite can be fun, when that is actually just redirecting the conversation to something else after you decided you don't want to claim to know what is on TMO's collective minds anymore.

PLUS you're throwing more vengeful comments at TMO even though there is no place in this immediate discussion for accusations of rule lawyering.


Just admit that you're blinded by your hatred for TMO and that they aren't actually out to get you (well except that they might actually be out to get YOU), but that they raid for the same reasons everyone else does: raiding, winning at raiding, and getting loot from raiding. They just seem to be more interested in those 3 things than anyone else on the server, so they end up with the vast majority of the raiding, wins, and loot.
You are either blatantly ignorant, or didn't read correctly.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:37 AM
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Why is this so difficult?

Have each top (or contending /capable) guilds message Nilbog or Sirken the days and times during the week they'd like to raid - with a maximum allowance set by the server GMs at their discretion.

Then when they are in the zone, the boss is spawned and the GMs hang around(or come back) when it's over to make sure there's no loot bugs, zone crashes etc.

Additionally you're allowed as many wipes or attempts as you want, providing no other guild has reserved a slot anytime soon after yours(all registrations to be minimum three or five hours apart etc)

Everyone gets a shot, everyone gets some loot if successful and no more camping, training, interfering etc.


Otherwise, quit fighting over something completely unimportant. And guild leaders, quite guilt tripping your players into going to 'help the guild' by farming for items to 'help raid' and then end up sitting around for hours doing nothing just so you can settle a score with another guild.

People are more important than your ego. /realitycheck
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:48 AM
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Why is this so difficult?

Have each top (or contending /capable) guilds message Nilbog or Sirken the days and times during the week they'd like to raid - with a maximum allowance set by the server GMs at their discretion.

Then when they are in the zone, the boss is spawned and the GMs hang around(or come back) when it's over to make sure there's no loot bugs, zone crashes etc.

Additionally you're allowed as many wipes or attempts as you want, providing no other guild has reserved a slot anytime soon after yours(all registrations to be minimum three or five hours apart etc)

Everyone gets a shot, everyone gets some loot if successful and no more camping, training, interfering etc.
So you want the GMs to spend a ton of manhours to effective create a simulacrum of instancing on a server that's intended to recreate the classic, EQ experience? K.


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Otherwise, quit fighting over something completely unimportant.

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People are more important than your ego. /realitycheck
Look at you! The Big Man, logging onto p99 forums to tell all of us nolifers about the meaning of life.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:51 AM
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So you want the GMs to spend a ton of manhours to effective create a simulacrum of instancing on a server that's intended to recreate the classic, EQ experience? K.


Is it that hard? They spend more time dealing with the drama, nonsense and log studying (because of players' exploitations), than they would if they had some organized system in place.

And fu** the 'classic' experience at this point, there's so much NON classic here it's useless. They could at least salvage some of the morale of the server by bringing some order to the table.

Just because it's classic doesn't mean it's good.

The real reason we can't come to any resolution with this issue?; is because the players in power /control actually don't want it and the GMs don't give a crap either way.



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Look at you! The Big Man, logging onto p99 forums to tell all of us nolifers about the meaning of life.
Clearly your attitude makes my point about any resolution.
It's no skin off my back - if you don't want to make progress fine...continue being a nolifer as you call yourself.

What is it you kids say 'you mad bro?'
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:02 PM
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I'm kind of curious about something though.

I know that on live in the kunark and velious eras, I was a pretty casual player (mindset wise, at least. I was online as much as a high schooler playing sports possibly could be). I was in awe of the gear that Trak and such dropped. I didn't even know what VP was. I had no aspirations of ever completing my epic. The most "exciting" things I ever did back then were pickup raids of vox and naggy or spending time with a single group at a cash camp somewhere (although back then I spent more time at something like warlord in KC than at crypt or HS south or whatever).

Was I just THAT much more casual than the majority of this server's 50+, that I was content drooling over drops from seb instead of demanding that my guild be given a rotation for attempting stuff like Trak and VS? Or is it the ubiquitous MMO entitlement thing? Or what?


I guess it seems likely that I was just blissful in my ignorance? I don't know.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:33 PM
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I want to say I remember reading somewhere that the majority of TMO tracking is done by only a handful of the guild's players. Lord knows I'm not going to be able to find the post, but I'll try.

Assuming I did actually read that though, it just seems to reinforce the whole "the players who are willing to invest the most time/energy into raiding are all in TMO, and that's why TMO gets most all of the raid mobs" rather than the "small guilds have fewer people to share the load, that's why we don't get kills."
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:53 PM
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no, FTE is fun. Let's have each of our guilds sit 5-10 trackers in the middle of the ocean in TD and tag Fay ~1sec after he spawns

that was a very enjoyable encounter
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Maybe if you never went and parked on spawns, we wouldn't either. Maybe! Maybe not.
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Maybe if you never went and parked on spawns, we wouldn't either. Maybe! Maybe not.
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