Server raiding scene saved!!

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i give zero fucks about tmo's history of douchebaggery, the fact that it happened before doesnt make it any less of a dick move now. the fact that the dick bag behavior is not only supported but encouraged by the staff is pretty weak too. how many guilds left the server now because of this policy? 3 or 4? (im sure king tmo bitch autotune will chime in here to educate me) imagine what the server pop would be like if all those people were still here. unlike what the TMO pr crew would have you believe, they didnt leave because they lost mobs, they left because they learned that the only skill that matters on p99 is your skill at rules lawyering. but of course why would TMO want those all those people here, the last thing they want is real competition.

im sure im gonna take alot of heat for making this post but idgaf anymore, p99's raid scene is fucking joke and im done with it

inb4 mad, bad, sad or fat or any other of the oh so original tmo combacks

BDA isnt anything close to real competition so stop pretending that you are.

Also, if you want to complain about fte engages look at your guild and last VS.

get off your soapbox

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i give zero fucks about tmo's history of douchebaggery, the fact that it happened before doesnt make it any less of a dick move now. {Your guild is guilty of FTE sniping } the fact that the dick bag behavior is not only supported but encouraged by the staff is pretty weak too. how many guilds left the server now because of this policy? 3 or 4? {Zero left because of FTE sniping, scrub} (im sure king tmo bitch autotune will chime in here to educate me) imagine what the server pop would be like if all those people were still here. unlike what the TMO pr crew would have you believe, they didnt leave because they lost mobs, they left because they learned that the only skill that matters on p99 is your skill at rules lawyering. but of course why would TMO want those all those people here, the last thing they want is real competition {They left mostly due to Amelinda being flippy floppy on her own accord. Actually had little to do with TMO, fucking scrub}.

im sure im gonna take alot of heat for making this post but idgaf anymore, p99's raid scene is fucking joke and im done with it {why would anyone give your scrub ass heat, you posted no revelations and only your stupid fucking opinions for which you have no idea how far those are from fact.}

inb4 mad, bad, sad or fat or any other of the oh so original tmo combacks

Your guild cries every fucking day about how you don't get your way and that TMO won't give you free shit.

Do us all a favor and do like chest suggested, move to fucking EpicEmu. Candy ass pussy bitches, even in fantasy land.

[Writ3r]

"It is against server policy to indefinitely kite, or otherwise keep occupied, a raid mob without intention of bringing it to your raid camp. You either bring it to your raid, die, or zone out. Obvious stall-kiting of a raid mob, especially in situations to prevent engagement by another guild, will result in disciplinary actions against the kiter's account, and possibly their raid/guild leadership." - Sirken

"take a log or SS of whos in the zone (/w all zone) and send it in with your petition. once upon a time i was in a guild that was literally seconds away from engaging trak when a monk from a competing guild let fly his javelin. we killed trak, yet the other guild got the loots because they had FTE. and yea, it sucked we didnt get the loots, but i had to tip my hat to that monk. but i mean, i'm not an idiot either. if u show me that GuildA had 35 in zone, and that GuildB had 5 in zone. and that GuildB let fly a javelin (technically gaining FTE), i'm not going to take away GuildAs loots. now if both guilds have sufficient raid forces, that would be a different story. you're going to notice in time that i'm a very big advocate of "common sense" - Sirken

"When I see blatant douchebaggery I will obviously suspend for it. But I’m not a nazi either. I have raid experience in EQ, and I understand that sometimes things like FTE can be extremely close, and I understand that things can just happen in the heat of battle, but there’s still a line that shouldn’t be crossed. P99 may not be a PvP server, but it is still a competitive raiding server. And as such, the staff wants to encourage heated, competitive contests between the guilds. We just want those contests decided by dedication and skill instead of garbage and griefing. Losing with class is always better than winning like a douchebag." - Sirken

I would suggest the people actually there/involved analyze these quotations and bold remarks themselves then depict from your proof or in the future preparation of proof to then be satisfactory to these areas.

If what exactly happened lies within the framework of what the OP posted considering TMO hasn't yet exactly denied it, but rather enforced that their force was hindered/less than sufficient, then it would appear Sirken is indeed what he says he isn't. Cause it would appear no common sense was used in his ruling if in fact there was intention to keep the mob occupied after 20 minutes was up with an insufficient force thus resulting in garbage and grief being rewarded rather than dedication and skill.

So i think we are all curious where does this dude Sirken draw the line between acting normal and/or with blatant douchebaggery? Cause common sense generally is that you don't engage a raid mob just after being rezzed, especially if that is the state the rest of your raid is in not being able to give/receive buffs/heals let alone dps effectively.

Red GM changing rules that resulted in less RnF to rules that encourage more RnF than even times past. FTE > all, everybody... pure genius!

[Tanthallas]

[QUOTE=Writ3r;708454]"It is against server policy to indefinitely kite, or otherwise keep occupied, a raid mob without intention of bringing it to your raid camp. You either bring it to your raid, die, or zone out. Obvious stall-kiting of a raid mob, especially in situations to prevent engagement by another guild, will result in disciplinary actions against the kiter's account, and possibly their raid/guild leadership." - Sirken

"take a log or SS of whos in the zone (/w all zone) and send it in with your petition. once upon a time i was in a guild that was literally seconds away from engaging trak when a monk from a competing guild let fly his javelin. we killed trak, yet the other guild got the loots because they had FTE. and yea, it sucked we didnt get the loots, but i had to tip my hat to that monk. but i mean, i'm not an idiot either. if u show me that GuildA had 35 in zone, and that GuildB had 5 in zone. and that GuildB let fly a javelin (technically gaining FTE), i'm not going to take away GuildAs loots. now if both guilds have sufficient raid forces, that would be a different story. you're going to notice in time that i'm a very big advocate of "common sense" - Sirken

"When I see blatant douchebaggery I will obviously suspend for it. But I’m not a nazi either. I have raid experience in EQ, and I understand that sometimes things like FTE can be extremely close, and I understand that things can just happen in the heat of battle, but there’s still a line that shouldn’t be crossed. P99 may not be a PvP server, but it is still a competitive raiding server. And as such, the staff wants to encourage heated, competitive contests between the guilds. We just want those contests decided by dedication and skill instead of garbage and griefing. Losing with class is always better than winning like a douchebag." - Sirken

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[Greeedy]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"It is against server policy to indefinitely kite, or otherwise keep occupied, a raid mob without intention of bringing it to your raid camp. You either bring it to your raid, die, or zone out. Obvious stall-kiting of a raid mob, especially in situations to prevent engagement by another guild, will result in disciplinary actions against the kiter's account, and possibly their raid/guild leadership." - Sirken

"take a log or SS of whos in the zone (/w all zone) and send it in with your petition. once upon a time i was in a guild that was literally seconds away from engaging trak when a monk from a competing guild let fly his javelin. we killed trak, yet the other guild got the loots because they had FTE. and yea, it sucked we didnt get the loots, but i had to tip my hat to that monk. but i mean, i'm not an idiot either. if u show me that GuildA had 35 in zone, and that GuildB had 5 in zone. and that GuildB let fly a javelin (technically gaining FTE), i'm not going to take away GuildAs loots. now if both guilds have sufficient raid forces, that would be a different story. you're going to notice in time that i'm a very big advocate of "common sense" - Sirken

"When I see blatant douchebaggery I will obviously suspend for it. But I’m not a nazi either. I have raid experience in EQ, and I understand that sometimes things like FTE can be extremely close, and I understand that things can just happen in the heat of battle, but there’s still a line that shouldn’t be crossed. P99 may not be a PvP server, but it is still a competitive raiding server. And as such, the staff wants to encourage heated, competitive contests between the guilds. We just want those contests decided by dedication and skill instead of garbage and griefing. Losing with class is always better than winning like a douchebag." - Sirken

I would suggest the people actually there/involved analyze these quotations and bold remarks themselves then depict from your proof or in the future preparation of proof to then be satisfactory to these areas.

If what exactly happened lies within the framework of what the OP posted considering TMO hasn't yet exactly denied it, but rather enforced that their force was hindered/less than sufficient, then it would appear Sirken is indeed what he says he isn't. Cause it would appear no common sense was used in his ruling if in fact there was intention to keep the mob occupied after 20 minutes was up with an insufficient force thus resulting in garbage and grief being rewarded rather than dedication and skill.

So i think we are all curious where does this dude Sirken draw the line between acting normal and/or with blatant douchebaggery? Cause common sense generally is that you don't engage a raid mob just after being rezzed, especially if that is the state the rest of your raid is in not being able to give/receive buffs/heals let alone dps effectively.

Red GM changing rules that resulted in less RnF to rules that encourage more RnF than even times past. FTE > all, everybody... pure genius!

Bump

[Xadion]

Originally Posted by Sprokets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO has been sniping FTE for over a year now this is old news. IB/TR dealt with it, VD dealt with it. You're TMOs "competition" now so get used to this stuff.

I believe the first real FTE snipe was Inny many many many moons ago by IB vs DA - and then the legend of Daltheb the fastest jav in the west taken into IB for that purpose.

I guess its just because I have been on this god forsaken server too damn long that I find all of this amusing- the cycle repeats itself ... people are "shocked" by rules and raid scene that has been practically the same for what...going on 2? years now...

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Sprokets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO has been sniping FTE for over a year now this is old news. IB/TR dealt with it, VD dealt with it. You're TMOs "competition" now so get used to this stuff.

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[Daliant17447]

Wow Azeth, I didn't think anyone actually used Internet Explorer anymore.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Daliant17447 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow Azeth, I didn't think anyone actually used Internet Explorer anymore.

as i've said many times before, i'm usually use a netbook @ work.

[Greeedy]

Are you retarded Houdiny?