Game Mechanics: High End Zones/Mobs -- Trakanon etc (Assist/Aggro Radius)

[Lazortag]

If a mob sees through walls in outdoor zones, does that mean they also path through walls? This is a question mostly for Gwence/anyone else on eqmac.

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a mob sees through walls in outdoor zones, does that mean they also path through walls? This is a question mostly for Gwence/anyone else on eqmac.

if you mean will they agro you from behind a wall out of LoS - depends on the zone I think, and how z-axis comes into play.
Highkeep I am kos, and it's an outdoor zone but I havent noticed agro from nobles unless you're los, this could be due to them having small agro radius though
PoHate you have probably 5-10 mobs agro upon port in no matter what, every time. Moving around in that zone is pretty treachorous.

if you mean do they run through the wall? - depends on zone pathing, often times yes, some zones no.

with indoor zones I've found bosses will run into a wall and stick for a few seconds then warp right on top of you

outdoor usually is open enough where they dont get stuck if there's an obstruction they usually are able to magically climb over the top of it.

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys should really try to come up with better proof than what is being displayed on Al'kabor. Those zones were changed so many times between Kunark and PoP that any evidence coming from that server should be taken with a grain of salt.

Nexona doesn't gate. You want to fix something about Nexona ? Look at the HT she throws at you 2-3 times a fight for 4k. It should be around 1k and it should only happen once. Losing a tank to Nexona is not classic. As of now, Nexona is the hardest dragon in VP because your tanks will take random 4k HTs throughout the fight.

AoEs in VP: They should all be avoidable. We used to pull everything in VP at the zone in, and we fought all the battles with the healers under the bridge. They'd dodge every single AoE.

Drakes: Drakes should lose aggro with LoS. They should not be following you as soon as they lose LoS. Whether they regain aggro when you come back next to them (without FD) I can't remember, but Drakes should not be chasing you around the zone.

I can't provide proofs for any of this, it's coming from my classic knowledge (which is probably a more classic recollection than what Al'Kabor is).

1-where do you see any listing that zones were changed, AK is original EQ code locked in a time capsule, this has been confirmed on the sony website lol.

2-It does gate, they all gate. But you're right about the HT thing, have not noticed more than 1 HT.

3- completely wrong, you're calling on knowledge from 8+ years or more, I'm using knowledge from 3 days ago.. defintetly can't avoid ae's at all.

4- not sure what you mean concerning drakes

you can change the zone back to in door for all I care and continue pulling all the dragons to the top of the pool room lol - I'm just giving insight from a pure classic server (AK) that alot of people currently play on. You certainly don't have to use it.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1-where do you see any listing that zones were changed, AK is original EQ code locked in a time capsule, this has been confirmed on the sony website lol.

As I've never played on AK going to ask a simple question, which version of VP are they running over there? The original or the revamped?

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2-It does gate, they all gate. But you're right about the HT thing, have not noticed more than 1 HT.

No Nexona doesn't as it is an SK. Remember mobs are supposed to follow the rules of their base class.

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3- completely wrong, you're calling on knowledge from 8+ years or more, I'm using knowledge from 3 days ago.. defintetly can't avoid ae's at all.

Again I ask which Version of VP is running over there?

[Treats]

May 14, 2003

Veeshan's Peak - We have changed this zone to make it more appealing, particularly for those playing with one or two groups. We have removed the restriction against using gate in this zone and modified the zone population. Over all, the zone will be better to play in.

July 14, 2004

Veeshan's Peak!

With this revamp we have Updated the level and NPC list for the zone: Please note that this zone is now an elemental level zone! The entry quest to Veeshan's Peak has been changed. The original key quest has not been modified. However, the new entry quest uses the old key and offers an alternate quest to do instead of the original key quest.
Items in the zone are now of elemental planes quality.
Faction now matters: Dragons in Veeshan's Peak will now speak to players if you have the correct faction and can understand them.
New quests and lore: The dragons in Veeshan's Peak will now give players the option to acquire items through questing for them.
The zone is now an exp zone as well: Hunting in the areas before the dragons yields experience and loot.

It's the original.

Here it lists Nexona as a Necromancer:

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10799

Silverwing -- Enchanter
Hoshkar -- Shaman
Xygoz -- Bard
Nexona -- Necromancer
Phara Dar -- Enchanter
Druushk -- Druid

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

May 14, 2003
Here it lists Nexona as a Necromancer:

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10799

Then Nexona shouldn't HT....

[Gwence]

AK VP is original, you cannot gate out, have zone out pads at nex and PD, otherwise corpsing out is only way. respawns are super fast as well on trash like 2 min or less.

I'll resign Nexona/Druusk/Xygoz gating for now.. Hosh/SW/PD definitely gate

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AK VP is original, you cannot gate out, have zone out pads at nex and PD, otherwise corpsing out is only way. respawns are super fast as well on trash like 2 min or less.

I'll resign Nexona/Druusk/Xygoz gating for now.. Hosh/SW/PD definitely gate

Seru gate clicky works. It is 3 min on spawns iirc.

I do remember drakes losing interest and seeming to be tethered to their spawn locations in VP on AK.

Mobs used to also lose interest in PCs in Kunark and original EQ but on p99 mobs will chase you down from one side of the zone to the other no matter how much distance you put between you. I don't think they will fix that.

Asher

[happyhappy]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think Plane of Fear should be duo'd by a Monk and Cleric?

Considering that a careful wizard could solo in there on live, yes I'm certain a monk and a cleric should be able to duo in there.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you fucking dense? He is asking people to post evidence in either direction. No where did he post an opinion or a conclusion.

It is incumbent upon the person making the bug report asking for things to be changed to present evidence that it was correct within the time period of the server.

You inferred that he asked people to post in either direction, when there was no such implication or directive. The original post listed what the OP believed the aggro radii and lines of sight aggros should be (which are different what is currently used) without any evidence that these changes would be proper.