Mob Camping Rules

[Danyelle]

>Log off forums
>Come back 15 minutes later to a whole new page and still mass confusion

Oh god. I don't know how clear 9 different posters can make this...

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Callnoutthenewbs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this guy is clearly is a retardo

Bottom line if you kill something and log off its fair game for whoever wants or comes by and loots said item

You are wrong, Xasten is clearly right.

[Hitchens]

*Sigh*

There's some sort of communication barrier here.

[aggrikta]

how is there a language barrier, you said that a lvl 1 shouldn't have the loot rights to an a ring killed by the main of that account, if they couldn't kill it they lose rights to it? there is a language barrier but not from me. I don't know what players do and don't do, just what can they get away with.

[Frieza_Prexus]

It looks like it got missed in the shuffle over to page 2 so in case you missed it: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...0&postcount=20

You kill it, you own it. There is established precedence to this.

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It looks like it got missed in the shuffle over to page 2 so in case you missed it: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...0&postcount=20

You kill it, you own it. There is established precedence to this.

Completely different context than killing something and logging off so an alt can loot it.

[Frieza_Prexus]

If a VP dragon is killed and the whole guild zones out and I log to my alt to loot the item, does that cede my loot rights?

I say the answer is that I clearly retain all rights. Given that Rogean's statement clearly homogenizes raid mobs and non-raid mobs for the rule's purposes, I fail to see your distinction.

Yes, you MIGHT argue that by logging you sent a message implicitly that you were giving up the loot rights. However, determining any implicit statments would be a factual inquiry unique to each situation. Implicit cessation of loot rights should be the exception and not the norm. That is precisely why I recommended he tell the individual lurking nearby that he does not, under any circumstances, cede his rights.

Originally Posted by Rogean

Ninja looting is not a raid dispute. It is an individual basis. If a mob is killed in a non-disputable zone, the group (and thus raid/guild) that is merited the kill has rights to the loot. If they don't grant you permission to loot the corpse, you are violating an individual server rule by ninja looting.

As for dropping items, I find two distinctions. 1. Rogean did not include item dropping in his statement. He clearly included any killed mob with unceded loot rights. 2. Item dropping has been explicitly recognized by rule-making authority as "at your own risk."

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a VP dragon is killed and the whole guild zones out and I log to my alt to loot the item, does that cede my loot rights?

Reductio ad absurdum.

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It looks like it got missed in the shuffle over to page 2 so in case you missed it: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...0&postcount=20

You kill it, you own it. There is established precedence to this.

This situation....absolutely no different than dropping something on the ground. It's a risk you take. Have a friend loot for the MQ or just keep the corpse locked for you.

The people who try to ninja a corpse that someone was logging an alt to loot are certainly dicks and I don't condone it, but the people who would petition over this are wasting the guides' time imo. You can take precautions.

[Arrisard]

If the person who killed it logs off, that doesn't mean the other person who is hovering around has somehow gained permission to loot the corpse.

It's the original killer's loot up to and including rot unless he specifically gives you permission to loot it.

Don't understand how hard this is to grasp for some people. Go try taking something off of a raid corpse just because it went "public" and see what kind of response you get. It's no different from a tooth on Trak to an FBSS on Frenzied.