Red99 Changes/Improvements

[STRAY]

Originally Posted by Rogean

"no exp loss on pvp death: You guys can discuss that. It is currently serving multiple purposes of providing atleast something to deter people from bind rushing / kamikazing against odds, as well as giving people a reason to continue EXP Groups at 50. Toss out opinions though."

IMO spawning with no mana AND/OR rez effects after PvP death would deter bind rushing more-so than exp loss. Though I think it best to replace exp loss with no mana / rez effects after PvP death - I would def be fine with you just implementing the no mana/rez effects to it and leave PvP exp loss in.

Scenario - Bind Rushing... Wouldn't it be harder with no mana and a temporary stamina/str debuff after PvP death? Can't run a train on someone if you're unable to run.

Scenario - Bind Camping... Say someone was bind camped AFK, they would die over and over, but at least not de-leveled. I find that it would be easier to grief people at their binds because of the debuff from PvP death, though it would be less consequential.

The only problem I have with PvP exp loss is that it doesn't net you any exp gain if you kill, just exp loss if you die.

I don't see the point of having exp groups at 50 - You could be pking, pvping, raiding, or just farming loot (and helping non 50's get exp). Most people will log an alt if they want to grind.

[Akim]

The current exp rate is perfect

No binding in raid zones - Yes
No Mana after PvP death - Yes
No XP Penalty for PvP - No. It's so small now it's a non-issue.
Remove Hybrid XP penalty - Yes
Non-PvP Zones - No, go to IRC if you want to idle without being PK'd.

Some truth to this too.^

I'll add please keep the XP penalty for PvP!

[Rydar]

Yeah I agree too, speed up content release. Throw Plane of Sky into the next patch along with Plane of Hate and Temple of Sol Ro, then give us Kunark (early) this summer.

I'm sure we lost more people to lack of content then all other things combined 10x.

[jdklaw]

Originally Posted by Mornin3.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

City Bind - When I am bored I will probably sit in cities and kill people who just died. Sure lets do that one............................................... ....

Lol'd

Originally Posted by Mornin3.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ducking to cancel spells - Please.

[jdklaw]

give me no exp loss so i can stop doing pve, give me 1 item loot so i can farm low lvl items

make up your mind, they already said they like exp loss because it encourages lvl 50s to continue grouping for things

[Lazortag]

Can someone please give me a good argument against being allowed to bind in raid zones? If you respawn oom why would you need to disable binding in raid zones, when only casters can bind in raid zones?

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... I think that exp loss on pvp deaths, and no binding in raid zones are unnecessary if you simply make casters go oom when they die in pvp. This is just how it was in classic, there was never a need to disable binding in raid zones or make people lose exp, because casters couldn't effectively bind rush with no mana. I think it's unfair to remove a unique ability of these classes (binding anywhere) when the less extreme, more classic deterrent to bind rushing (going oom after you die) hasn't been tried yet. Some zones were binding disabled on Live already (hate, sky, kunark dungeons, TD eventually) and so it should just stay that way - there's no need to disable binding in even more zones.

[Teeroyoyort]

Lamort's 50 deaths in plane of fear starting CT DT cycle was pretty awesome!

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone please give me a good argument against being allowed to bind in raid zones? If you respawn oom why would you need to disable binding in raid zones, when only casters can bind in raid zones?

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Teeroyoyort [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lamort's 50 deaths in plane of fear starting CT DT cycle was pretty awesome!

So then disable it just for Fear. This isn't a reason to disable it for every single raid zone.

[Mornin3.0]

Originally Posted by Teeroyoyort [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lamort's 50 deaths in plane of fear starting CT DT cycle was pretty awesome!

that was lethdar.. dont give lamort so much credit

[STRAY]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone please give me a good argument against being allowed to bind in raid zones? If you respawn oom why would you need to disable binding in raid zones, when only casters can bind in raid zones?

Smells like "no no LnS from raid zone" bluebie pixel greed to meeeeee.

Gloinz and others have brought up a great point - PvP exp loss discourages people who only want to PvP, once they've reached the appropriate level of their choice, from doing just that.

If it was possible... PvP exp gain, but only to recoup for the possible exp lost in PvP, and not actual further gain??? So a person could keep PvPing and as long as they are good, they'll keep their level, but not be able to gain further exp/levels in PvP.