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View Poll Results: Do you believe ooc and auction should be returned to zone-only?
YES! I want ooc/auction to be per zone only. 383 52.39%
NO! I want ooc/auction to remain global wide. 348 47.61%
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:13 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, spam has very little to do with my desire for the removal of global channels. Global channels shrinks the world and makes it altogether less interesting to run into other people while you are out and about. New players you meet become more interesting when they aren't just some voice you can hear whenever. Being in less traveled zones becomes more exciting when you are on your own without a crowd of people talking at you. Going to a big city has a more unique feel when it is a rare occasion to interact with many people. I dunno...global chat just makes eq less of the game I am so excited to be playing again.

As for people's concerns about new players, there are still people around and I actually think someone is more likely to help a newbie out if there aren't 500 people right there that you can pass the job onto. Directing players to the forums is also always an option.

As for the low server population, I only see this as making it all the more interesting when you DO run into people because it is just not that common.

Perhaps I'm a little overzealous about this, but seeing global chat go away is a very exciting prospect for me.
I voted no. My reasons are simple: I like this server for its unique character which largely is due to the population of the server, or rather the individuals that make up the server population. We have a large group of people playing a game that is over ten years old, the graphics are horrible for contemporary standards, the mechanics are buggy leading to a lot of frustration at times and the pace can be downright interminable. But this does not deter our peers. We play this game because we love it and we want something that was taken away for the MMO experience all those years ago. The fact is we have a large group of like minded people who log on everyday, and I like feeling connected to these people. I like the sense of community that global channels bring to the server, when i see someone spamming or lfg or w/e, I can place that person in this community, remind myself, oh yes there is _____, I wonder how they have been doing, etc.

I do not understand why everyone has to get so derisive and vitriolic about this issue, it seems to conjure up feelings of deep hatred whenever it is mentioned.

As for the arguments of the opposition, my feelings are thus: the non-classic element is a moot point. We all know that we are not playing a legit classic server. There are many elements of the game, some for better some for worse, that are not classic. Frankly I don't care. I am very content playing on the present classic hybrid server we all enjoy today and is the bed rock for the huge success of an emu server. Secondly, the belief that ooc is filled with sexist/racist/political rants I find to be a huge overstatement. I hardly notice this happening and when I do i just stop looking at green text for awhile.

So far the only cogent argument that I feel has been able to make me question my own beliefs is the piece I quoted at the beginning of the post. Doomapple presents a good point. Perhaps server wide chat erodes personal, more meaningful connections one makes face to face by providing a glut of connectivity. It is hard to say, but I think if we did away with global chat it would produce a localizing effect as people would be less inclined to travel for 30 minutes to find their destination was barren.

just my thoughts.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:37 PM
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they only thing that is to be learned from this poll is that a lot of people are going to be pissed no matter what is done about this....sucks to be the devs :P
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:00 PM
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they only thing that is to be learned from this poll is that a lot of people are going to be pissed no matter what is done about this....sucks to be the devs :P
Lol, so true.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:40 PM
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As for the arguments of the opposition, my feelings are thus: the non-classic element is a moot point. We all know that we are not playing a legit classic server. There are many elements of the game, some for better some for worse, that are not classic. Frankly I don't care. I am very content playing on the present classic hybrid server we all enjoy today and is the bed rock for the huge success of an emu server. Secondly, the belief that ooc is filled with sexist/racist/political rants I find to be a huge overstatement. I hardly notice this happening and when I do i just stop looking at green text for awhile.

just my thoughts.
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Guess it isn't really a moot point there, is it?
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:03 PM
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I hope it is known that the server will become more classic as time progresses. As live servers would patch in new content or features, we patch out newer content or features.

We will restore prekunark, Kunark, and Velious to the best of our abilities. We will put polish on them, and they are free for you to roam. Some content and features may be patched out before others, but do not be of the mindset that present non-classic elements are here to stay. It is only a matter of if they can be fixed, how they can be fixed, and when we can fix them.

I am a classic purist. The biggest mistake everquest ever made, in my opinion, was automating and simplifying the player's experience. Seemingly every new feature or change that was implemented post Velious was something to "benefit" me, that I didn't need to begin with. There are PLENTY of other games that encourage perks and things that are easier. Classic Everquest was widely-known to not be one of them.<team npc=""><team npc="">

We make the best, most well-informed decisions we can, with consideration to the feedback we receive.

</team></team>There was never a question of keeping global channels permanently. The question is to whether or not now is the time. The development team has to consider many factors, *some* of which were mentioned here. If there was a switch to immediately and completely revert this to classic, I'd flip it. Until there is, we will occasionally ask you for your feedback.
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:18 PM
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Thanks Nilbog. None of that should be a surprise to anybody, and that philosophy is really why we're all here (or, well, most of us).
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Old 05-18-2010, 02:29 PM
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I'll restate what I did the other day in another thread. Sunday night around 11/12 MST (really, not that late) I ran from High Pass to Toxx forest getting songs for my bard in all the cities on the way.

EK/NK/WK I was the only person in the zone. I didn't check Qeynos hills, but I doubt more than 1-2 people would have been there. Both Qeynos zones were completely empty as well, along with Erud's crossing, all of Erudin, and Toxx.

Not very classic if you ask me.. and a new playing would find the world quite empty if they start on that end and have no global channels.
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Old 05-18-2010, 02:33 PM
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I'd imagine the global chat helps lure people in when they first join the server. Instead of popping up in a noob zone, alone, and killing low level critters for a couple hours without hearing or seeing another soul, they are greeted by familiar and entiving /auc spam and LFG calls.

I know that when I was level 3 in the noob zone I was so eager to hoard everything and level furiously because I see the "WTS FBSS 12k" and "LFM LGuk 33+!" and it's something that sucked me in.
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Old 05-18-2010, 02:35 PM
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I'd imagine the global chat helps lure people in when they first join the server.
Depends on what* you're luring in. There is another side to this story. The people that do not play because there is ooc chat they don't want their kids to see. There are just as many people that do NOT want to see global ooc, as there are the people that are entertained by it.
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Old 05-18-2010, 02:37 PM
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Depends on what* you're luring in. There is another side to this story. The people that do not play because there is ooc chat they don't want their kids to see. There are just as many people that do NOT want to see global ooc, as there are the people that are entertained by it.
And those people have the option to turn it off.. Quite simple...

I see no one has addressed my previous post just like in the last thread.
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