Game Mechanics: Mellee miss rate seems excessively high.

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by Yoite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

at lvl 50 President has 250 skill, thats why he doesnt miss a lot. You only have 60, thats why you miss a lot.

You are trying to say the differance between a lvl 12 vs 5 and a lvl 50 vs 43 is the same when it is not. Just b/c the differences in skill points between these mobs are the same you will not get the same results b/c the skill points are much higher on the higher lvl mobs. Its not so much that there is a difference of 35 points between the PCs atk skill and the mobs def skill, its more about having higher skill lvl.

I dont know how else to tell ya that at low lvls your char sucks and as you lvl you get more badass. Thats how it goes.

Well, whats broken really is the way hits and misses are calculated. Eh, not broken, just not right. Obviously somethings working to cacluate em, its just not accurate to the original EQ method. Because at level 50, he should still be missing occasionally against mobs that are around his level. Or even a little below. Remember, he's attacking something with a defense thats much closer to his attack skill than mine.

I never said it didnt suck and that you dont get more badass as you level, If you read what I had to say properly, it could easily be assumed that you would, because you'd have an easier and easier time killing things that were one, then two, then five levels below you.

[President]

*sigh* It's really not worth talking to you anymore.

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*sigh* It's really not worth talking to you anymore.

Well, since you dont have anything constructive to offer, I suppose not.

[President]

Originally Posted by Morndenkainen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, since you dont have anything constructive to offer, I suppose not.

Dev's are looking at this board all the time. Do you know why they haven't responded to this one? Because you are not giving ANY evidence that it was difference from Live. Only whining about the miss rate.

Enjoy beating your head against the wall longer.

[Tallenn]

Actually, I remember it much the same was as President.

Lower level toons miss more on greens than high level toons do on reds. The skill score has to do not just with your ability to hit mobs close to your level, but to hit PERIOD. That's the way I remember it.

It's also why I never leveled a melee or even hybrid class on live without PLing it. I got frustrated with all the misses. Right, wrong, good, or bad, that's the way it was.

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by Tallenn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, I remember it much the same was as President.

Lower level toons miss more on greens than high level toons do on reds. The skill score has to do not just with your ability to hit mobs close to your level, but to hit PERIOD. That's the way I remember it.

It's also why I never leveled a melee or even hybrid class on live without PLing it. I got frustrated with all the misses. Right, wrong, good, or bad, that's the way it was.

Not arguing that lower level toons miss more, Im just saying the actual rate of misses for the lower level characters is off... There's no reason I shouldnt be able to do here, what I used to do on live, back in 1999 when the game first came out and I first played a warrior if the server is trying to be as accurate as possible.

[Tallenn]

But you're not providing any evidence that it's any different than it was back then. I remember it as being absolutely horrible for a low level melee to kill anything- hence, why I never leveled any of them very far.

You are claiming to remember it differently. However, you aren't providing any proof. It's 11 years- everyone's memories are going to be somewhat different. In my memory (and it seems in the memory of several other posters), low level melee is pretty much the same as it was in classic. In your memory (and admittedly, in the memory of others, as well), it's not.

How do you propose to solve this discrepancy? Do you perchance, have any screenshots from 1999 showing a level 12 warrior hitting more than missing? Anything? Nobody's doubting your word that your 12 war can't hit shit. What they are doubting is the claim that it's not classic.

I specifically remember making the choice NOT to play a melee because of this very issue in live classic. Kudos to those who could stick with it, but I'm not one of them.

[Desert]

No, but they can take your numbers and if they seem off, they can adjust. Or not.

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by Desert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, but they can take your numbers and if they seem off, they can adjust. Or not.

all you can see is the immediate problem, you're completely incapable of putting an ounce of your own thought in to help the situation out. i cant stand people like you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You either need to learn to read or go get some glasses...

[Desert]

k, have fun with that miss rate