Trakanon Rotation

[Autotune]

3/4 traks competed against with TMO vs VD

the 4th trak going to the server (excluding TMO and VD) regardless. If not killed within a certain time frame, they joint raid it and roll on the drops.


This gives the server other than TMO and VD a chance at a Bard epic no matter what.

[heartbrand]

Everything in this thread is why contested spawns without PVP is retarded, happy to be on red.

[Daldolma]

Well, we've got an officer from TMO saying he'd be in favor of:

Open
Open
Open
Non-TMO/VD

and we've got an officer from VD saying he'd be in favor of:

Open
Non-TMO/VD

Seems like it's in the guild leaders' courts. As far as I'm concerned, either of the above would be a unique, promising, and altogether unexpected advance in the end-game relations on P99. Will be interesting to see if it happens, and if not, who shoots it down.

[Enygma]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, we've got an officer from TMO saying he'd be in favor of:

Open
Open
Open
Non-TMO/VD

and we've got an officer from VD saying he'd be in favor of:

Open
Non-TMO/VD

Seems like it's in the guild leaders' courts. As far as I'm concerned, either of the above would be a unique, promising, and altogether unexpected advance in the end-game relations on P99. Will be interesting to see if it happens, and if not, who shoots it down.

Problem is when VD got less loot than the other guilds such as Taken / Divinity etc. that we are giving the opporunity to kill mobs or have "attempts at these encounters" They will nerd rage because we are beating them on the 75% of mobs that are competed upon between VD/TMO. They will then take the mobs that are being given to Taken / Divinity / BDA / Acyrid as a QQ for having no merbs and will say its because TMO is not playing fair or that they are bullying them etc etc.

QQ moar vd/queen skeletor and co.

[Daldolma]

No worries, shit happens. I get why you'd be on edge.

[Nirgon]

If you don't think sharing mobs and giving other people a shot is good for this (blue) server's community? You're off your fucking rocker.

This is about loot, nothing more and nothing less. They aren't willing to compromise.

[AenarieFenninRo]

I love how someone has gone from a suggestion of how to break up TRAK spawns has tried to now say that VP is also going to be part of this same thread... Coldblooded herself has talked about this being about TRAK not VP.

quit trying to steamroll one into another, and there is zero agreement at this point, there is VD trying to say this is the way to do it, and Jeremy saying "thats an interesting argument" that does not conceed to any agreement, its an observation

[quido]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how someone has gone from a suggestion of how to break up TRAK spawns has tried to now say that VP is also going to be part of this same thread... Coldblooded herself has talked about this being about TRAK not VP.

quit trying to steamroll one into another, and there is zero agreement at this point, there is VD trying to say this is the way to do it, and Jeremy saying "thats an interesting argument" that does not conceed to any agreement, its an observation

You have terrible verbal skills.

VD has always been of the "my way or the highway mentality." I put a real proposal on the table that will provide some action to the guilds who haven't seen as much as they would like, and all VD can do is try to get a little more out of it for themselves.

TMO will not enter a rotation agreement with VD on Trakanon at this point. Don't waste your time and effort in resistance to this cold(blooded) and hard fact.

You could be spending that effort to get people behind relinquishing 1/4 of all raid targets, for two months or something, to people who aren't in VD or TMO. Why don't you? I think it's a fucking brilliant proposal. If you people even expressed the slightest interest in such a thing, I would similarly being trying to get my people behind it. Cmon, take a little nibble at my juicy worm! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zapatos]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO will not enter a rotation agreement with VD on Trakanon at this point.

Then at least rotate with the rest of the server, as one of you said you be more willing to do. Continue to compete with VD but allow for a slot where tmo and vd back off after a pop. Can you even do that?

TMO vs VD
TMO vs VD
OPEN - tmo and vd 6 hours then ffa

Or are you going to say that the rest of the server doesn't deserve a chance either and it isn't just VD you hate? Your argument falls apart at some point.

[tekniq]

Jeremy you prove valid points in your arguments, simultaneously VD also supports some valid points in their arguments though Jeremy you are right, they haven't killed a dragon yet using the normal training rules I'll give you that. But honestly, looking from the outside in, your reps are acting pretty childish. There's no need to troll on server forums.

I'm positively sure you two can reach some sort of mutual agreement, with the right representatives. Your offers are not taken seriously by anyone due to the unneeded troll comments. We're all adults here, can we negotiate like one? The way you two guilds are handling issues are detrimental to the whole server. There is no chivalry or respect left on this server. I also hope that as a guild, your hate towards each other isn't towards everyone in the opposing guild. Both guilds have cool people, so it's unnecessary to make enemies out of people who don't really hate each other.

Before you two even negotiate any kind of rotation or mutual agreement of any sort, you guys need to learn how to RESPECT each other and learn to LIVE with each other. Without that, nothing will be achieved. Xasten posted some great insight in the RnF thread, I suggest both of you guys take the time to read it and soak it in.

Though you two guilds might be fighting for mobs, the server does not revolve around you and both your actions are making GM's hate this server.

Love, not hate.