Game Mechanics: Undead do not train

[Furniture]

im not 100% on this since its been so long, but as nizzar stated i do believe that non-undead mobs should add any pc to its hatelist from proximity aggro alone, i recall anytime anyone with a mob ran through a group and zoned, that mob would come back to anyone who got on the hatelist from proximity aggro

in the case of fansy, like nizzar stated, if a pc had proximity aggro only on an npc and ran it through another pc, the new proximity aggro would take precedence over the old proximity aggro and the mob would change targets

had fansy done damage at all to the mob, the mob would have chased him til he zoned, then went after the pc's fansy gave proximity aggro to

[Furniture]

also based on some stuff i read from a thread about undead aggro in the eqclassic forum, it looks like undead mobs had their own aggro rules in outdoor zones only and not indoor zones (dont know how reliable that is but it sounds right)

[Nirgon]

Yes specters did gate low hp. They didn't announce it like, say frogs in seb or raid mobs either.

I remember getting them low, not having the mana to finish right when I triggered "gate hp" on them.

The specter would gate back to its spawn point, but not immediately aggro. However, if you got close enough to the island/its spawn point again, it would start chasing you again (bringing his friends along too if any were up and the # aggrod was affected by your level) and would slowly regenerate its hp and if it had been disengaged until then.

Fact! Not fiction!

What a fun memory to have right there.

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes specters did gate low hp. They didn't announce it like, say frogs in seb or raid mobs either.

I remember getting them low, not having the mana to finish right when I triggered "gate hp" on them.

The specter would gate back to its spawn point, but not immediately aggro. However, if you got close enough to the island/its spawn point again, it would start chasing you again (bringing his friends along too if any were up and the # aggrod was affected by your level) and would slowly regenerate its hp and if it had been disengaged until then.

Fact! Not fiction!

What a fun memory to have right there.

Wait what? LOL

[Nirgon]

I'm positive specters would gate back to their bind. That's the truth.

They'd only aggro if you got near them again, otherwise they'd all just sit in the tower.

[Nirgon]

Looks right. Don't think I saw em cast a life tap maybe but that's how it was.

How level effects social aggro is interesting too. You could single pull if you were high enough of a level above the group of targets.

I remember single pulling a camp for a friend' SK twink. It was kind of PLing just getting him single mobs with the regen he had.

[Nirgon]

Yeah I see they come from the same source but this is just illustrating how it should work. It's not eqlive like I thought when I was looking at the previous shaman soloing vid, the hint being "debug xxx". But I think we can all agree it should work like that.

I'm still very amused by the whole specter should gate thing. Really brings back the memories.

[Stinkum]

Fom the original classic EQ Atlas entry for Befallen:

Originally Posted by EQ Atlas

First off, the trains can be atrocious. There is a very low level area (the 1st floor) and a quite high level area (3rd floor). On the 3rd floor (well, on any floor actually) it is very easy to be swarmed and overwhelmed, and many people, if they don't die, will then be running for the exit. This causes problems for the people who lie along their path. Many of the monsters will jump off of the train and attack people that they pass by, but even worse is what happens when the person that all the monsters are chasing either zones or dies, and that is that the entire train walks back down to its level again. Along the way, they will attack anyone within their frenzy radius (which is almost the whole dungeon, it is so small). The trains are also more deadly because, if you are fleeing them, you have to somehow try and open locked doors from your inventory screen while being slammed.

http://www.eqmacwiki.com/eqatlas/befallen.html

[happyhappy]

Not only undead mobs worked this way fyi.

Here's a famous exemple: http://www.notacult.com/fansy1.htm

[Fri Jul 06 22:41:52 2001] Your feet move faster.
[Fri Jul 06 22:41:55 2001] You shout, 'Welcome, You've Got Mail!'
[Fri Jul 06 22:41:58 2001] A sand giant slashes Emotionless for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 06 22:41:58 2001] A sand giant hits Emotionless for 94 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 06 22:41:58 2001] Emotionless has been slain by a sand giant!
[Fri Jul 06 22:41:58 2001] Your feet move faster.
[Fri Jul 06 22:42:14 2001] You shout, 'Giants love the good guys! Hooray!'

unrelated

[Thu Jun 06 14:09:42 2002] Nilbog has been slain by Priest of Discord!

[Nirgon]

Sup here?