Bard AoE kiting How-to & Screenshots

[Nokio]

Originally Posted by machin576 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• L1-18ish: Field of Bone, great zone.

• L7ish: The bandit sister camp in GFay (location #3)

• L10-12ish: The orcs in LFay (locations #6 & 11)

• L9-15ish: Willowisps in NK, WC, or possibly Kerra Isle in Erudin’s crossing. Beware, Kerra does not have many flat surfaces and there is no zone lines if you need to reset, so probably not a good idea.

• L13-15ish: The Derv and orc camps in SRo or NRo, lulling the casters and taking them out solo afterward. I usually also went in the desert and grabbed some extra roaming undead/dervs. (locations #3, 5, 6, & 10; although more locations in the southern portion are orc camps. I just found those listed to have fewer/no casters.)

• L14-18: Field of Bone. Good spot North East of Kurn’s and a plethora of mobs to kite.

• L16-19ish: LOIO fields. (I did 17 off the skellies/lower level sarnaks between locations #4, 5, 7 & 9. I did 16-20 off the non-caster wanderers between locations #9 and 13)

• L18-30+: South Karana – Anything and everything. Beware of non-bard classes and their curious philosophy called “Camps”.

• L17-24ish????: Gorge hounds, undead gnolls, all kinds of delightful mobs. I need someone to add some input on this zone, since I have never kited it.

• L20-26: Iksar outcast camps in WW and the lower level field portion of OT. (WW locations #B, 9, 10, 11 and OT field between locations #5, 6, 9, 10). OT is off-the-charts exp at this level range. If you can gather up the whole area, you are looking at ~45min/level during this range.

• 26-28The EXP really started to slow down in OT, so I headed back to WW and continued on the iksar outcast camps there. Was slower, but I didn't have to spend half my kite gathering up LB mobs.

• 29-30: I am doing this portion on the Drolvargs in FV. I have to admit, this range is by far the most dangerous I've done so far. The drolvargs are larger than most MOBs I've kited so far, and therefore have a larger hitbox, while I still have to be within 35 measurement units to hit them with my 18 dot. I have really perfected my distance/selo's speed, while also dieing much more than I would have liked in this level range. I gather up yellow/blue drolvargs while avoiding froglocks (especially casters) and other red dogs. It's actually not that hard to do. On this map of FV, I gather drolvargs from the area surrounded by points #3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and A on the map, and then I take them back towards the NorthEastern Swamp of No Hope zone line as there are no wanderers back there. I'd recommend only pulling a few until you perfect your skills, as I have gotten stunned and 1-rounded (or even not stunned and one-rounded) more often than I'd like to admit. These dogs can take me to probably 35 or so, but I think I may try to find some MOBs to kite that aren't quite so deadly. The good news is I can sell/bank without zoning.

• 31-40: I went back to OT and started kiting the Western/Southern areas of the zone. Basically any blue-red mob (besides dragoons) between the Outpost, SF, FM, the center valley and location #10 on this map of Overthere is fair game. I do recommend you pull only cockatrices, tigers, and cacti. They all move at the same speed. Rhinos move faster, but selos is much faster and a rhino-only kite would certainly work. Some Sarnaks cast, and I'm moving way too fast to check names to see if I'm about to pull a caster or not. This post shows some kites where I had probably 50+ mobs in my kite (figuring 1-2%/kill, and I know I made 100% of a level for each of those 2 kites). You can make some pretty awesome pulls. I've pulled so many that the dot spam insta-crashed EQ to desktop (creating a crappy CR).

• 40-46ish???: Dreadlands, drovlargs. Hopefully Hmo will come give some inputs on which walls of Karnors he used, etc, etc.

• 46-52ish: Spectres in Feerott or Oasis

Kind of stumped after this. I did all my kiting in Velious on live after level 30, so not the best source for this information.

Also, does anyone have any information on TD, I remember being there on live, doing Aviaks or raptors maybe? I cannot remember what level they are.

This list is in no way exhaustive, so feel free to add to it and repost it.

Hi all,

I just want to add that i did level 10 to 13 in WC killing everything BUT kodiak and ghoul as they con red. At 13 I moved to Sro and made it to level 14 in 2 ae kite. Both WC and Sro are like paradise. I have to admit that i did not try ae kiting in other zone of that level BUT.... you get my point.

Perhaps we could start a page on the wiki about zone to ae kite and at which level to do so?

[ByronosaurusRex]

CoM Floor 1 is amazing xp from 50-57ish. You have to tone down pulls b/c the space you have to safely round your mobs up is obviously less than in a true outdoor zone. 10-20 at a time is best. But the xp is retarted, it's like AE group xp....solo. You don't know how bad I wanna pull a reaver train and kite it down. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Moonface]

When I am kiting, I will mouse drive and be kiting fine, suddenly my mouse spazzes out and cuts me directing inward towards the kite... Hmmm?

[Pringles]

Thanks for all the info in this thread and other bard threads.

I've just gotten a good start at this. I started off messing around with 1-2 mobs in GFay, then moved on to LFay. Once I ran out of orcs to kill in LFay I went to FOB. Once the Pit went green in FOB ~20 I went to OT NE corner.



My record is in the last screen shot there - 52 exp mobs (there were a handful of other non exp mobs in that kite but that doesnt count now does it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )



P.S. The best thing ive found to reduce huge kite lag is shut off shadows. If you play with them on, shut them off before you kite - it saved me TONS of lag and I've been a lot more successful since.

[Maben]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for all the info in this thread and other bard threads.

My record is in the last screen shot there - 52 exp mobs (there were a handful of other non exp mobs in that kite but that doesnt count now does it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

P.S. The best thing ive found to reduce huge kite lag is shut off shadows. If you play with them on, shut them off before you kite - it saved me TONS of lag and I've been a lot more successful since.

This "P.S." helped me tremendously. I tried all the other "lower settings" options that others have suggested with minimal if any effect. As soon as I turned off shadows my lag significantly improved. Anyone who has other suggestions for kiting post them here!

[Zalgyr]

So does anyone want to post their experiences with City of Mist? I'm loving kiting in OT, and looking forward to BW in a couple more levels (shout-out to Tuneyards for showing me the ropes!), but I'm always interested in a change of pace for a night or two.

~Z

[Pringles]

Originally Posted by Maben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This "P.S." helped me tremendously. I tried all the other "lower settings" options that others have suggested with minimal if any effect. As soon as I turned off shadows my lag significantly improved. Anyone who has other suggestions for kiting post them here!

Nice! Glad it helped someone else, I havent really seen it mentioned anywhere else, but it was a huge win for me - it was preventing me from doing pretty much anything over 20 mobs.

I did 100% of level 37 in 1 pull, and 100% of level 38 in another pull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Level 39 was ~2 pulls, and now I'm 40. Leveling flies at this rate, my problem is time IRL.... I have none left to play as much as I would like.

[Pyronost]

Originally Posted by machin576 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• L1-18ish: Field of Bone, great zone.

• L7ish: The bandit sister camp in GFay (location #3)

• L10-12ish: The orcs in LFay (locations #6 & 11)

• L9-15ish: Willowisps in NK, WC, or possibly Kerra Isle in Erudin’s crossing. Beware, Kerra does not have many flat surfaces and there is no zone lines if you need to reset, so probably not a good idea.

• L13-15ish: The Derv and orc camps in SRo or NRo, lulling the casters and taking them out solo afterward. I usually also went in the desert and grabbed some extra roaming undead/dervs. (locations #3, 5, 6, & 10; although more locations in the southern portion are orc camps. I just found those listed to have fewer/no casters.)

• L14-18: Field of Bone. Good spot North East of Kurn’s and a plethora of mobs to kite.

• L16-19ish: LOIO fields. (I did 17 off the skellies/lower level sarnaks between locations #4, 5, 7 & 9. I did 16-20 off the non-caster wanderers between locations #9 and 13)

• L18-30+: South Karana – Anything and everything. Beware of non-bard classes and their curious philosophy called “Camps”.

• L17-24ish????: Gorge hounds, undead gnolls, all kinds of delightful mobs. I need someone to add some input on this zone, since I have never kited it.

• L20-26: Iksar outcast camps in WW and the lower level field portion of OT. (WW locations #B, 9, 10, 11 and OT field between locations #5, 6, 9, 10). OT is off-the-charts exp at this level range. If you can gather up the whole area, you are looking at ~45min/level during this range.

• 26-28The EXP really started to slow down in OT, so I headed back to WW and continued on the iksar outcast camps there. Was slower, but I didn't have to spend half my kite gathering up LB mobs.

• 29-30: I am doing this portion on the Drolvargs in FV. I have to admit, this range is by far the most dangerous I've done so far. The drolvargs are larger than most MOBs I've kited so far, and therefore have a larger hitbox, while I still have to be within 35 measurement units to hit them with my 18 dot. I have really perfected my distance/selo's speed, while also dieing much more than I would have liked in this level range. I gather up yellow/blue drolvargs while avoiding froglocks (especially casters) and other red dogs. It's actually not that hard to do. On this map of FV, I gather drolvargs from the area surrounded by points #3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and A on the map, and then I take them back towards the NorthEastern Swamp of No Hope zone line as there are no wanderers back there. I'd recommend only pulling a few until you perfect your skills, as I have gotten stunned and 1-rounded (or even not stunned and one-rounded) more often than I'd like to admit. These dogs can take me to probably 35 or so, but I think I may try to find some MOBs to kite that aren't quite so deadly. The good news is I can sell/bank without zoning.

• 31-40: I went back to OT and started kiting the Western/Southern areas of the zone. Basically any blue-red mob (besides dragoons) between the Outpost, SF, FM, the center valley and location #10 on this map of Overthere is fair game. I do recommend you pull only cockatrices, tigers, and cacti. They all move at the same speed. Rhinos move faster, but selos is much faster and a rhino-only kite would certainly work. Some Sarnaks cast, and I'm moving way too fast to check names to see if I'm about to pull a caster or not. This post shows some kites where I had probably 50+ mobs in my kite (figuring 1-2%/kill, and I know I made 100% of a level for each of those 2 kites). You can make some pretty awesome pulls. I've pulled so many that the dot spam insta-crashed EQ to desktop (creating a crappy CR).

• 40-46ish???: Dreadlands, drovlargs. Hopefully Hmo will come give some inputs on which walls of Karnors he used, etc, etc.

• 46-52ish: Spectres in Feerott or Oasis

Kind of stumped after this. I did all my kiting in Velious on live after level 30, so not the best source for this information.

Also, does anyone have any information on TD, I remember being there on live, doing Aviaks or raptors maybe? I cannot remember what level they are.

This list is in no way exhaustive, so feel free to add to it and repost it.

Eastern Karana - Gorge Hounds & Griffawns were my main staple, this is a *great* place to start learning to swarm if you're level 18 and just starting. I normally use the entrance to the Gorge of King Xorbb when I begin circling, as it's nice and flat, clear of trees, etc. Caution though, the two lionesses and two griffawns patrol into the mouth, so either grab them and pack them into the herd, or be aware. Farther to the south is a large hill that has gnolls and undead gnolls depending on the time of day. Be careful of the spiders on the way back to the Gorge though, as their range is considerably larger than anything else mentioned above.

**Edit - Keep an eye out for the undead gnolls skeleton pet at the top of the hill, as well as the floating eyes (Enchanter class) that are roaming around from time to time. Nasty little shits.

[Hmend]

For anyone interested I taught hmotzart everything he knows through hard work, and discipline. Clerics are the one class that can outswarm a bard. For any questions on cleric swarming hit me up.

[Hmotzart]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hmend is the master of the swarm rezzing. OMG the way he rezzes 20 bodies at a time IS amazing! 3cheers for HMEND!