are wizards gimped?

[Zordana]

druid have nukes that do around 600 dmg.. ice comet does 1100+..

[Examino]

I'm playing a 31 wiz right now.

it does get discouraging when I see a lower level magician soloing an entire room in HK while I can barely kill an even con, and when I do i'll be completely OOM.


then you have druids, who are a dime a dozen on this server.

sometimes its hard to get a group and i don't really have the option to solo =/

going to stick with it for a while longer and see how it is.

[siinge]

wizards are pretty junky on p99 and in classic

granted ice comet is dope, instant refresh on nukes is pretty dope but wizards are trash

why?

1-49 your dps is lacking a mage can out dps you 24/7 all day, you sit alot, most wizards afk ninja in groups due to the high med rate and abuse it.

No familiar, harvest, kunark spells

they shouldnt even have there ae snare, that didnt come out till kunark so... wtf

even still most classes can out dps a wizard once they blow there mana bar they are crap, there is no FT items yet, almost anything else has better utility and dps than them, there unresistable or low resist nukes dont come out till kunark

other than being one of the few wizards here for porting to do trash on planes overall there gimpy but all guilds want them because there are none yet and dont realize how crappy they are.

truth

mage dps > wiz dps even at 50 here all day everyday

when kunark comes out things will be different but so will alot of things

[Examino]

Wow...

looks like i'll be turning the wiz into a permanent porter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[mitic]

wizards nuke cast timer is faster overal, ratio is better, lures in kunark

there is plenty wizards can do better than any other caster dps classes

other than that..yea they r boring in pve, for me at least.

[jettoki]

Originally Posted by siinge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wizards are pretty junky on p99 and in classic ...

1-49 your dps is lacking a mage can out dps you 24/7 all day, you sit alot, most wizards afk ninja in groups due to the high med rate and abuse it.

Evidence?

No familiar, harvest, kunark spells

Familiars and Harvest added little to the class. Lures were post-50, so how are they relevant?

they shouldnt even have there ae snare, that didnt come out till kunark so... wtf

Bonds of Force is pre-Kunark. Get your facts straight.

other than being one of the few wizards here for porting to do trash on planes overall there gimpy but all guilds want them because there are none yet and dont realize how crappy they are.

truth

Gibberish?

mage dps > wiz dps even at 50 here all day everyday

Rogue DPS > Warrior DPS. So Warriors suck, right?

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Wizards serve several purposes in a classic group.

• Late-fight burst damage to kill runners and casters
• Chainable, NON-BOLT elemental nukes (unlike Mages)
• Root and AoE Snare for CC and kiting
• Tishan's Clash (cheap, quick-casting stun)
• DPS is independent of pets (big win vs. AOE bosses)
• Teleports to evil-friendly locations and Planes (unlike Druids)

In short, groups benefit from having a skilled Wizard, and the class is highly desirable in raiding guilds. They are plenty differentiated from Druids and Mages.

Just takes some patience to play. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zordana]

well wizies are better DPS in raids, thats cause mages are busy makin rods [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Skope]

pretty certain wizzies do get an AE snare in classic, in fact i think i've seen it used. Therefore all you'd need is jboots or SoW potions, some int gear and quad-kite your pretty little ass off.

[Pikle]

Wizards are high dps but are very dependent on mana... like most caster classes. As a druid personally I could never out dps a wizard. Druids are more of a utility class. Wizards are the best class for finishing mobs fast, it makes a big difference. Mages do more dps only because the pet. Mages nukes are near the same dps while lvling up but the higher a wizard gets the more difference there is their nuke dmg. Wizards are the only class that can port to several places, which include Sky and Hate. At lvl 49 a wizard can almost 1 shot 35-39 mobs. As a druid even in solb fighting a kobold it takes me a few nukes.

Wizards are no where near gimp, they are a very powerful class. But for that power they are very tough lvling up, especially solo. I honestly don't remember when they got quad snare, I always remember them having it. Playing a wizard is well worth it imo, they aren't really my personal style. But if you can actually lvl them up it's so worth it. And Wizards are even more useful in kunark/velious because having a few wizards per raid will up your dps by insane numbers. And in situations where you need to insta kill something, wizards can do it faster than anyone!

[Pikle]

Jettoki hit it right on the head it seems like! I kept thinking aoe snare was before Kunark but I didn't play a wizard up past 29 till after kunark launched. Wizards are sick, learn it!