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Old 03-05-2012, 08:52 AM
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You want a proc with a stun component wherever possible. The actual damage isn't what's pulling aggro, it's the stun (whether resisted or not).

Obsidian Shard is fairly poor aggro, but every bit helps at lower levels.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:52 AM
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Stuns by themselves were generally worth 400 aggro on live (I can't confirm/deny off hand what it is here, should be similar).

As far as regular weapon aggro, keep in mind that aggro is based off swings, regardless of hit or miss, and the amount of aggro generated is based on a formula from the weapon's stats (I wrote the formula into code a while ago based on information from the steel warrior).
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:35 PM
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Well, I just want a pair of weapons that will get me to 40 that will be decent aggro and will proc for me.

I was a warrior on live, but I started right at Velious and didn't really understand the best ways to get aggro until I actually had access to decent aggro weapons.

I remember it went something like proc pure hate was best, proc stun+dd was next, proc with just stun was 3rd, proc with a debuff was 4th, Proc that buffed you was 5th, proc with just a DD was 6th, and then just pure damage/good ratio was last.

So, may I ask a good dual wield set up that is good from either 1-40 or at least 1-30? Now, keep in mind, I'm normal and am not rich. So, two weapons at best together something under 10K at the very most.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:48 PM
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That sounds about right, Barrier, with the exception (iirc) that a dd proc could actually be as high as #4 depending on the damage of the dd involved.
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:47 PM
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Warrior melee aggro is just horrible. In fact with current proc rates I would almost go so far as to say that for XP groups warriors are a broken class without serious dex gear. I did 5str/20sta for my warrior, if I had to do it over again i'd do 10sta/15 dex. Get dex buffs from a shaman whenever possible. At 50, the average fight with a group will last about 1 minute. With 125 dex and 2 proccing weapons, I get a proc which will usually hold aggro about every 40 seconds. So that means I'm tanking 2/3 of the time.

From 1-40, just use a Staff of Battle since 1H dps is crap and all the proccing weapons with good ratios won't proc.

From 40-50 you will begin to suck as a warrior due to no skill increases. For max aggro go double yak club.

From 50-60 the standard combination is Sarnak Warhammer/Silken Whip of Ensnaring. It's reasonable aggro/dps but -5AC is kind of annoying.

If you are super rich go RMoY/BotBDE (expect to shell out 300k).

Warrior weapon selection blows compared to monks who can get a tstaff for 50k.
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:12 AM
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i'm an ogre war and put all my stats into dex at creation. I have no issue holding agro with two proc weapons and i'm not talking about botbde etc. I just use sarnak hammer/silken whip.
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:17 PM
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So ,this tread has been good ,a lot of info .my question what's a pally to use to tank/dps 1h & 2h.
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:28 AM
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So ,this tread has been good ,a lot of info .my question what's a pally to use to tank/dps 1h & 2h.
1H and shield + their OP spells to keep aggro.

SK - Ebon Mace, Noctivant Blade, MoSS are popular.

Paladin - Sword of the Mourning and maybe other stuff but paladins are few and far between.

They both do well with their epics too!
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:03 AM
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Paladins mainly use spells but sword of mourning is good it has a stun proc, rod or mourning/lamentation are good 2hb with procs.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:05 AM
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There have always been rumours that Ykesha procs had a 25% higher proc rate than ordinary procs (i.e. 2.5 PPM if default is 2 PPM, not sure if that's the actual default PPM) which was what made them such good weapons. I can't remember if that was just SSoY, though, but I suspect it would be for all Ykesha weapons if it was there at all. If it is, that'd be a strong argument for RMoY. It also has a considerably better ratio.
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