Ragefire Agreement/Rotation

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ doesn't have a magical bubble that prevents other people from contesting stuff. I'm honestly surprised no one outside of IB/TMO came in to contest it.


Also it wasn't a TMO - IB guild based rotation, it was an agreement amongst the clerics with the most time at the camp, just so happens they were from IB/TMO. We randomed for the slots, which people now call a "rotation".

The OP was an attempt to demonstrate that it could be handled peacefully and to seek additional input from the rest of the community regarding how to go forward from here on out. The patch, thankfully, has been implemented so we should be seeing 2-6 ragefires per week instead of the previous 1 per 9 days. I would still like to see something worked out to prevent another FFA click fest.

Look I don't have a problem with how things turned out and I don't see how you got that from my post. As far as I'm concerned, if you put the time in you get the gear. If the whole server had gotten together and made sure Ninik got the first one, I think that would have been pretty awesome . . but we didn't, and that's OK too. I'm purely pointing out the hypocrisy of anyone in IB/TMO bitching about VD taking a Ragefire or two and not giving a spot to Ninik when they did the exact same thing for two months.

Anyway with 3 ragefires per week this problem will disappear fast. In a few months tops every cleric will have one.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do have to kinda laugh at TMO/IB shutting everyone out of Ragefire for 5 weeks and then suddenly you are raid suspended and it's "oh poor ninik". Where was all this love and compassion a month ago when the thread was originally created? You could have said "we'll do the 5 clerics who spent the most time clicking air in the lair plus Ninik", but you didn't.

Anyway, I think this particular problem will go away pretty fast - my understanding with the new patch is that Ragefire will spawn about twice a week or maybe even more. So we'll get 8-10 more sprinklers this month and I'd be pretty surprised if one of them doesn't have Ninik's name on it.

I don't feel too bad for Taken. Maestro was up at least 10 minutes. So basically they just had 15 people AFK up there, and if this is enough to give you dibs on all raid mobs . . . lord help us. I do feel bad for BDA not getting Draco though. They had a nice head start with more than sufficient numbers. Trakanon we experimented with training the mobs away, failed pretty miserably, ended up fighting him right at the entrance to the lair, training BDA. As we rezzed up, BDA pulled Trak by accident training us. Finally we went in and did it the slow way successfully. I don't think there was any malice there, just some incompetence on both sides. Meanwhile TMO was busy rezzing/buffing/COH'ing BDA as much as possible of course.

Check your facts because you are wrong.

[Wotsirb401]

I believe BDA had a shot @ Draco before VD engaged. I saw many naked BDA on WC spires. When I got to fear VD had taken down Draco. Inny spawned 15 minutes before the server was going down and no other guild had a shot at him

[maverixdamighty]

Ya I consider what happened with maestro to be in bad form, but it's not against the rules. This is just from what I've heard from players in both guilds.

[maverixdamighty]

This is getting off topic anyways. This thread was about trying to get a rotation going so each capable guild could get atleast one cleric epic, but has become a list of what guild has screwed over what guild etc.

[Metallikus]

It is all of a sudden the PR thing to do for Stealin since his entire guild can't touch dragons, he's on some holy crusade to do good for the lower tier guilds (or maybe jsut for Ninik)...that all changes of course when he can get back to stealin dragons.

Where was his holy crusade when IB and TMO were rotating Ragefires? Why didn't he step in and get Ninik inserted in there somewhere? Why won't his guild agree to some sort of rotation?

VD is all for a rotation, always has been. Get your shit straight and make an agreement that stands for more than a week that you guys are suspended, we will honor it immediately even during the week we have the most uncontested mobilization for targets.

Hell, why not rotate CT while we are at it?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is all of a sudden the PR thing to do for Stealin since his entire guild can't touch dragons, he's on some holy crusade to do good for the lower tier guilds (or maybe jsut for Ninik)...that all changes of course when he can get back to stealin dragons.

Where was his holy crusade when IB and TMO were rotating Ragefires? Why didn't he step in and get Ninik inserted in there somewhere? Why won't his guild agree to some sort of rotation?

VD is all for a rotation, always has been. Get your shit straight and make an agreement that stands for more than a week that you guys are suspended, we will honor it immediately even during the week we have the most uncontested mobilization for targets.

Hell, why not rotate CT while we are at it?

Ninik agreed that those clerics spent a great deal of time sitting there. She backed off it willingly.

Now that the damn thing is fixed you retards tell Ninik to fuck off?

Yeah you got the right, the same right i have to do what i'm doing. The set plan was for a rotation to appear when ragefire was fixed, instead VD doesn't want to allow it while they have the upper hand. That's all.

Sadly, you didn't view all the cards on the table first.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ninik agreed that those clerics spent a great deal of time sitting there. She backed off it willingly.

The set plan was for a rotation to appear when ragefire was fixed, instead VD doesn't want to allow it while they have the upper hand. That's all.

Come up with a rotation that's something other than "TMO/TMO/TMO/then actual rotation starts" and the rest of us will take it seriously.

The rest of this thread should be no one posting except a designated cleric rep from each Ragefire-capable guild, sorting out a rotation. Anything other than that is just noise/posturing.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come up with a rotation that's something other than "TMO/TMO/TMO/then actual rotation starts" and the rest of us will take it seriously.

The rest of this thread should be no one posting except a designated cleric rep from each Ragefire-capable guild, sorting out a rotation. Anything other than that is just noise/posturing.

go back, look at my posts...

And i don't care what you take seriously, no one is going to get an epic unless it's Ninik.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which are those? Other guilds have had first attempt on Trak, Naggy, Maestro, and Talendor that I'm aware of. I can't speak for Gore, Draco, or Inny since I wasn't there.

Maestro and Draco. Neither were "against rules", but they weren't playing nicely either. Taken was leap-frogged at Maestro.

Originally Posted by Wotsirb401 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe BDA had a shot @ Draco before VD engaged. I saw many naked BDA on WC spires. When I got to fear VD had taken down Draco. Inny spawned 15 minutes before the server was going down and no other guild had a shot at him

BDA did not have a shot at Draco. IB was in the zone "training how to train", when Draco popped on them. IB notifies VD that Draco spawned, then starts camping/gating because of their raid suspension. BDA and Taken were the only guilds tracking in the zone. BDA zones in, only to find IB with their small train (like 6-10 mobs, BDA had cleared the zone earlier) along with Draco right at the fear portal. BDA wiped due to the train, and while IB rezzed us due to their unintentional wipe, VD killed Draco.

I do believe that it was all unintentional, but given the close relationship between IB and VD, you can imagine others don't believe so. It was horrible form regardless.