Ragefire Agreement/Rotation - Page 13

Skope · #1 01-19-2012, 05:47 PM

KoS is a triggered timer (kill a griff, start timer). He actually should have a small window where he spawns and not an exact 70mins (or whatever). It was also put there because of PoSky. I was there the day DA made troll accounts to bitch at Div because Rogean said we both had done enough to claim KoS (think you had to clear more than 2 griff or pegasuseseses). Anyway, it doesn't do anything to ease the poopsock or the mess that naggy will become if it means that nag's kill is attached to ragefire, it only alleviates the issue by placing it elsewhere (FTE naggy).

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Wiggl : i suspect we could get enough support to just overwhelm the camp. the rotation thing is pretty much why im not going to bother for 6 months

Fix this.

Autotune · #2 01-19-2012, 05:51 PM

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KoS is a triggered timer. He actually should have a small window where he spawns and not an exact 70mins (or whatever). It was also put there because of PoSky. I was there the day DA made troll accounts to bitch at Div because Rogean said we both had done enough to claim KoS (think you had to clear more than 2 griff or pegasuseseses). Anyway, it doesn't do anything to ease the poopsock or the mess that naggy will become if it means that nag's kill is attached to ragefire, it only alleviates the issue by placing it elsewhere (FTE naggy).

Fix this.

ib/tmo/vd already fight for FTE on naggy (tho not as harsh and seeing how we already worked an agreement with ourselves...) The only thing it does is block out the rest of the server who do not already "compete" for naggy due to reasons previously stated.

I am showing you what could be in place for the rest of the server, instead of this agreement. Something that is supported by the rules in place.

maverixdamighty · #3 01-19-2012, 05:53 PM

Much better comparison but that I don't know a rule is in place for that. Don't believe that rule applies. Going back to relapses' idea that favorably impacts everyone involved imo. Tmo and ib/vd get yours first and it gives other guilds an opportunity to get it without the sockfests. Add in u can hit other targets instead of worrying about naggy.

Skope · #4 01-19-2012, 05:54 PM

The current rules aren't the biggie, it's the massive window and sockfests that its created that leave others out and you get threads like these, where each side throws poop at each other and yet both agree that the problem needs fixing. Fix the dumbass windows and you'll fix the ragefire situation, and certainly the complaining from those of us left out.

Xeliso · #5 01-19-2012, 06:05 PM

OCCUPY ZORDAK RAGEFIRE

quido · #6 01-19-2012, 06:07 PM

Whatever the situation, people will find a way to exert incredible overall effort to levy the odds in their favor. A lot of people in your situation, skope, before the variance and both with and without the (forced) rotation endorsed the variance as a quality solution. I don't think most people envisioned the lengths to which players on p99 were willing to go. No ruleset is going to cure the "problem" of crazy no-life ninjas (such as myself, apparently) being hardcore as fuck.

Skope · #7 01-19-2012, 06:10 PM

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Whatever the situation, people will find a way to exert incredible overall effort to levy the odds in their favor. A lot of people in your situation, skope, before the variance and both with and without the (forced) rotation endorsed the variance as a quality solution. I don't think most people envisioned the lengths to which players on p99 were willing to go. No ruleset is going to cure the "problem" of crazy no-life ninjas (such as myself, apparently) being hardcore as fuck.

You know, the same was said for the guilds that were poopsocking would still be the best guilds when FTE hit; but what happened? Soon as that window opened we took it in our hands and went with it with 2 server sweeps in 2 consecutive weeks. The same attitude was had by people when actual poopsock was the server norm and obviously things changed for the better (though Rogean took a nice dump down our throats during that time). A defeatist attitude isn't how you fix the problem and stagnation by default as a suggestion isn't a suggestion. Fix the big problem and you'll fix your little one, otherwise you'll be here playing with yourselves and still against yourselves.

ShinraTensei · #8 01-19-2012, 06:49 PM

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...We tracked, mobilized and competed and when guilds cheated is when Rogean took a nice hot dump down our throat for doing it fairly. Same still applies here....

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... Like I said, when we played fair and competed (and I played fair) Rogean took a nice hot dump down our throats and left us with a rather bad taste in our mouths....

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... (though Rogean took a nice dump down our throats during that time)....

Seriously, take your agenda to your own thread... you're shitting on people in here for the wrong reasons, meanwhile repeatedly embarrassing yourself by saying you eat Rogean's piping hot fresh shit (at least stated repeatedly 3 times already). We get it, you don't like the spawn variance. That discussion does not belong in this thread. You're about the only person I know that would take that kind of metaphor and continue to come back for more.

maverixdamighty · #9 01-19-2012, 06:41 PM

I don't think killing naggy prior to epics means anything since it was just for loot. Waiting 8 cycles before a chance to potentially get into the rotation is a bit long. As long as each guild gets one fairly soon I think it would be a win for all involved.

Brad_mo123 · #10 01-19-2012, 06:47 PM

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I don't think killing naggy prior to epics means anything since it was just for loot. Waiting 8 cycles before a chance to potentially get into the rotation is a bit long. As long as each guild gets one fairly soon I think it would be a win for all involved.

Being able to kill naggy means everything for the cleric epic. Ragefire is possibly a tad bit easier but the thing is, Ragefire window does not open untill naggy is killed so if you get into the rotation without ever trying contribute to it.... thats kind of fucked.