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[Nirgon]

I think Rogean's initial decision and how he went about it was against his own policy. However, I think I can understand why he did it, and handed down a just on the spot decision. Upon further review, in my book not an admission of guilt, we discovered the whole situation and I believe he will be making the right decision from there.

Now, do I think Nihilum deserves the same public declaration and gdisband? No. Well, you may say why punish two sides differently? The answer is you don't make the same mistake twice.

The right thing to do is remove all dragon loot, only suspend people for a week involved in attacking a bugged dragon. That said, if you haven't been suspended yet for it... it's time.

And of course have Nizzar flushed out the fucking air lock.

It's not my decision to make, and regardless I don't think it should be made public whatever that decision is.

However, if we see them walking around with Mistwalkers and shit? Yeah, we're gonna bitch about it.

I'd also hope a close eye is kept on the dragons because some people currently believe it has been killed legitimately. Not the case.

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Rogean's initial decision and how he went about it was against his own policy. However, I think I can understand why he did it, and handed down a just on the spot decision. Upon further review, in my book not an admission of guilt, we discovered the whole situation and I believe he will be making the right decision from there.

Now, do I think Nihilum deserves the same public declaration and gdisband? No. Well, you may say why punish two sides differently? The answer is you don't make the same mistake twice.

The right thing to do is remove all dragon loot, only suspend people for a week involved in attacking a bugged dragon. That said, if you haven't been suspended yet for it... it's time.

And of course have Nizzar flushed out the fucking air lock.

It's not my decision to make, and regardless I don't think it should be made public whatever that decision is.

However, if we see them walking around with Mistwalkers and shit? Yeah, we're gonna bitch about it.

I'd also hope a close eye is kept on the dragons because some people currently believe it has been killed legitimately. Not the case.

better get your troll crew on the case

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

better get your troll crew on the case

OK this one dragon you guys killed with pretty much the same raid force as the other exploited dragons did it right this one time.

Heh, pfff, ch, tuh.... hm.

Did you miss the logs that we posted along with screen shots of someone standing under the dragon not getting feared or breathed?

I think its back a few pages right before those PDFs turned up about you guys using and distributing MQ which you said was also false.

If in traveling back through the thread you reach the part where you told me that I'm clueless and your Vox kills were legit, you back back too far.

So I think you should be able to find it, but I can't tell you exactly which page.

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK this one dragon you guys killed with pretty much the same raid force as the other exploited dragons did it right this one time.

Heh, pfff, ch, tuh.... hm.

Did you miss the logs that we posted along with screen shots of someone standing under the dragon not getting feared or breathed?

I think its back a few pages right before those PDFs turned up about you guys using and distributing MQ which you said was also false.

If in traveling back through the thread you reach the part where you told me that I'm clueless and your Vox kills were legit, you back back too far.

So I think you should be able to find it, but I can't tell you exactly which page.

Id like full logs, because hughman and pets were surely getting fear and aoed.

oh no, that log you got was when you trained giants and beetles/ldcs on us.

Yeaaaa. Thats why you were there in the first place.

Do you have full logs of the fight?

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id like full logs, because hughman and pets were surely getting fear and aoed.

oh no, that log you got was when you trained giants and beetles/ldcs on us.

Yeaaaa. Thats why you were there in the first place.

Do you have full logs of the fight?

Did it "luckily" bug out? At which point I'd say the only logical decision would be the save yourself more time and having to bring more people out.

Dude, I gotta tell you pretending to post something like that seriously, almost made my head explode. How can you tolerate being so stupid?

Think about the dragon and Hughman's swing timers and tell me if a breath or fear, AT LEAST ONE, should have occurred during that time frame. I'm asking because apparently you're the fucking master here. My stupid opinion says this is an exploit.

And by stupid I mean stupidly obvious.

There is absolutely no end to your denial and treachery.

[Peppers]

cashed welfare check. Paid internetz. 4 more weeks.

Been gone for hours and you idiots still haven't put 2 and 2 together. I guess you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.


Nihilium exploited Phinny to aquire the means to help with the exploitation of Vox. This has been confirmed from multiple sources. Apparently there are no legit Nagafen, Vox NOR phinny loots. I'm sure there are alot of people with alot of contraband floating around. Hopefully the GMS won't have a hard time nailing down all the gear from those 3 raid exploited mobs.

[Peppers]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well why don't you pick the suspect out of a lineup.

1 Robe of the Kedge
2 Trident of the Seven Seas
3 Rod of Malisement
4 Wand of Mana Tapping
5 Staff of Elemental Mastery: Water
6 Blue Crystal Staff

I refuse to pass on knowledge that is common but which some here seem to think is secret. I just wanted to point out that both these guilds have been exploiting and it doesn't end with Nagafen and Vox.

[BigTB]

Originally Posted by Peppers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I refuse to pass on knowledge that is common but which some here seem to think is secret. I just wanted to point out that both these guilds have been exploiting and it doesn't end with Nagafen and Vox.

excellent troll, sad to see it comming to an end

[Lawler]

Originally Posted by kanras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only relevant change is raid mobs with instant AEs now recast them pretty much as soon they're available, instead of having random pauses like standard casting AI. This blew up on Sev because his AE spell had a recast of 0, which has been fixed, pending update. For Naggy, 12s fire and 36s fear is correct afaik.

Now look at 00:33:26

Originally Posted by The_Prophet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tue Jan 10 00:33:16 2012] Mezz feels much better.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:16 2012] A missed note brings Dekadenz's song to a close!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:17 2012] Nacho begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:17 2012] A missed note brings Presidente's song to a close!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:17 2012] Zhit begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:17 2012] greater kobold shaman begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:18 2012] Arbie says, 'Hail, Rob'
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:18 2012] Arbie says, 'Hail, Rob'
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:18 2012] Nerfed begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:18 2012] Arbie says, 'Hail, Rob'
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:18 2012] Arbie says, 'Hail, Rob'
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:18 2012] Hughman slashes Lord Nagafen for 22 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:18 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but Lord Nagafen dodges!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:18 2012] Mezz begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Lord Nagafen claws Hughman for 138 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Lord Nagafen was burned.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Lord Nagafen tries to claw Hughman, but Hughman parries!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Lord Nagafen tries to claw Hughman, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Reika staggers.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Reika staggers.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:19 2012] Hughman slashes Lord Nagafen for 3 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Reika staggers.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Reika staggers.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Emumu slashes Lord Nagafen for 15 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Hughman peers through a telescope.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Reika staggers.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Arbie says, 'Hail'
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Emumu bashes Lord Nagafen for 5 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Jarab crushes Lord Nagafen for 43 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Jarab kicks Lord Nagafen for 13 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:20 2012] Reika staggers.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Nacho's casting is interrupted!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but Lord Nagafen dodges!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Emumu begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Lord Nagafen claws Hughman for 192 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Lord Nagafen was burned.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Xenober tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Xenober tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:21 2012] Xenober tries to bash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:22 2012] Hughman bashes Lord Nagafen for 4 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:22 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:22 2012] Lord Nagafen tries to kick Hughman, but Hughman ripostes!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:22 2012] Hughman slashes Lord Nagafen for 9 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:22 2012] Jarab says 'Sorry, Master..calming down.'
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:23 2012] Taking a screenshot...
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:23 2012] Xenober slashes Lord Nagafen for 53 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:23 2012] Xenober tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:23 2012] Lord Nagafen claws Hughman for 138 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:23 2012] Lord Nagafen was burned.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:23 2012] Taking a screenshot...
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:24 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:24 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:24 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:24 2012] Emumu tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:24 2012] Taking a screenshot...
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Hughman peers through a telescope.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Taking a screenshot...
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Taking a screenshot...
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Xenober tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Xenober slashes Lord Nagafen for 17 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Lord Nagafen claws Hughman for 255 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Lord Nagafen was burned.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Lord Nagafen claws Hughman for 219 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Lord Nagafen was burned.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Lord Nagafen claws Hughman for 255 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Lord Nagafen was burned.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Taking a screenshot...
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Taking a screenshot...
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:25 2012] Taking a screenshot...
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:26 2012] Taking a screenshot... <<----------Conveniently missing whatever happened here, which just happens to be around 12 seconds before he started the log, every other second had at least 4-5 events.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Xenober tries to kick Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Emumu bashes lava duct crawler for 6 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Emumu tries to slash lava duct crawler, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Hughman tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Hughman slashes Lord Nagafen for 9 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Rufuss begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Xenober tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Xenober slashes Lord Nagafen for 30 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 10 00:33:27 2012] Xenober tries to slash Lord Nagafen, but misses!

He also just happens to lose 30% health inbetween screenshots. lol....

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

better get your troll crew on the case

You mean like Kanras and logs posted by Amelinda?

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They were just trying to help.