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Old 01-12-2012, 04:37 AM
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There's no conspiracy theory. All I did was take the stories given by Nizzarr and others in this thread and try to show how they were contradictory to what was said in the other thread. You were acting like nothing exploitative or abnormal happened during the Naggy encounters. It was as if the only reason you guys were able to kill him with 17 appropriate-leveled players and no Bard resists was because you were timing your /pet back off and /pet attack commands really well. The fact is that clearly something wasn't working as intended, but you, Reiker and Troriste all neglected to mention this in the thread where you were trying to make Naggy even easier.

To say that it was reported when Naggy wasn't working properly looks absurd to me because when I read that thread, all I see is your guild trying to dance around what was actually wrong with the encounter.

Anyways, I'm open to alternative explanations, I hold no biases, I'm just calling it like I see it.
So why were some people having to summon multiple pets? For the fun of it? Our first failed attempt I think I chained 4 pets before I figured out how to get my pet behind the wall when the AE hit.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:18 PM
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Reported how? In the exploits forum? It certainly wasn't reported here:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=58052

In this thread you were trying to make Naggy even easier. I was the first person to mention that there might be an exploit allowing you to kill Naggy with lower numbers than you should need (after it had already been killed twice). People like Jadian were denying that there was an exploit at all:



and later:





In the first thread, Nilbog even says that he wasn't aware of an exploit (suggesting that you certainly didn't report it right away), and even tested various pets/positions to see if he could get the AE to bug out. At no point did you chime in and say what was actually wrong with the encounter. To most people, it looks like you just wanted to exploit it even more.

Also see page 9 of this thread where Nizzarr denies there being an exploit, and fails to respond after being called out on it: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...t=59339&page=9

I can't claim to know what goes on behind the scenes, and I'm sure if Nihilum hasn't been suspended there's a good reason (and if there isn't a good reason, it's definitely not because of GM favoritism, I doubt Rogean even knows anyone in Nihilum), but I hardly think they can claim any moral high ground over Holocaust. Please, prove me wrong, I'd love to have more reason to dislike Holocaust.



Sometimes when you fix things, other things get broken, you idiot. At one point Naggy was (or at least seemed to be, from the raids I attended) fully functional. Run your own server and you might one day understand.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:21 PM
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Nizzar "okay were not going *lots of keyboard turning* to pull naggy this time, cuz it will *many arrow keys pressed* fucking bug out... they need to fix these stupid *bout 30 taps of left and right arrow key* dragons"

45 min later the CHAMPION OF SOULS Keto slays a fine scaled beast.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:15 PM
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Nizzar "okay were not going *lots of keyboard turning* to pull naggy this time, cuz it will *many arrow keys pressed* fucking bug out... they need to fix these stupid *bout 30 taps of left and right arrow key* dragons"

45 min later the CHAMPION OF SOULS Keto slays a fine scaled beast.
rofl billy is my favorite poster on these shitty forums
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:22 PM
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but yes, BURN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:47 PM
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Btw..THIS IS CLASSIC.

I remember MANY MANY raid boss fights where they would bug out and being the "first guild" to kill/raid the encounters was not met with guild-disbandings or perma bans.

However if GMs specifically told us to NOT do xxxxx and we would have i am sure they would have banned us all. Which has not been the case with Nihilum but was the case with Holocaust.

It still happens TODAY on live. If you are the first guilds to do an encounter and it is buggy not working correctly you finish the fight get your loot and they end up patching it later.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:48 PM
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Btw..THIS IS CLASSIC.

I remember MANY MANY raid boss fights where they would bug out and being the "first guild" to kill/raid the encounters was not met with guild-disbandings or perma bans.

However if GMs specifically told us to NOT do xxxxx and we would have i am sure they would have banned us all. Which has not been the case with Nihilum but was the case with Holocaust.

It still happens TODAY on live. If you are the first guilds to do an encounter and it is buggy not working correctly you finish the fight get your loot and they end up patching it later.
why do you keep bolding your words and claiming anyone in Holocaust was given a warning lol. You do realize we were not warned on any accounts?
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:00 PM
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why do you keep bolding your words and claiming anyone in Holocaust was given a warning lol. You do realize we were not warned on any accounts?
You are aware that not knowing the law is not a justification to break the law?

The GMs on both Blue99 and Red99 have made several posts about pathing exploiting. Given the fact that Nizzarr reported the bug BOTH times and yet Holocaust attempted to pathing exploit Nagafen for a SECOND kill should not surprise you with the end results.

But somehow it does....

Remember you got a free Nagafen kill using the pathing exploit when you KNEW it would bug. That is different than trying to do nagafen and finding out it would bug.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:02 PM
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You are aware that not knowing the law is not a justification to break the law?

The GMs on both Blue99 and Red99 have made several posts about pathing exploiting. Given the fact that Nizzarr reported the bug BOTH times and yet Holocaust attempted to pathing exploit Nagafen for a SECOND kill should not surprise you with the end results.

But somehow it does....

Remember you got a free Nagafen kill using the pathing exploit when you KNEW it would bug. That is different than trying to do nagafen and finding out it would bug.
Wait, where does it say anyone gets a freebie exploitation? And where does it say we exploited it multiple times? Do you have links?
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:05 PM
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Wait, where does it say anyone gets a freebie exploitation? And where does it say we exploited it multiple times? Do you have links?

Nihilum did him week before last right? Did they pull him to the bugged spot or did he do it on his own? Nihilum knew he would bug to that spot right?

You killed Nagafen last week right? You pulled him to the bugged spot right? You knew it would happen right?

You tried to kill Nagafen this week right? You pulled him to the bugged spot right? You knew it would happen right?

And now you are crying on the forums about being disbanded/banned/suspended right?
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