ATTN: Holocaust

[Melveny]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you're telling me that you don't care if your members bindrush and attempt to CC. You probably don't care when they train either, so long as they're not caught and suspended.

And nothing but mass guild vs guild pvp matters to you, so Holocaust is of course not responsible for the actions of Holocaust members unless a raid target is involved. If you're going to overreact like this because I brought the pathetic actions of your guildmates to your attention, it was only a matter of time anyway. So feel free to go into seek and destroy mode at a casual guild that's always lnsed and never attempted to grief you, maybe you'll get more kills in between those losses to Nihilum.

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)

If there are extreme circumstances you can message one of our officers who may grant you LnS. However we will deny it also if you have provoked the member. ( shit talking and forum posts come to mind)

I don't recall recieving a tell. I do however see a forum post. Believe me when I say you do not want to follow Lovelys example and forum post, you will make matters hard for yourself and your members. Try a tell next time.

[Daefuin]

Originally Posted by Melveny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)

Member actions don't reflect upon the guild? What? Where do you think a guild gets it reputation? When you do good/bad/stupid shit anywhere anytime in-game or out it has consequences on all your affiliations.

Why not just man up and admit your guild has a lot of people that will cc/bind camp? Stop trying to artificially create a guild image by declaring member actions do not represent te guild. That is just dumb and doesn't make sense on any level of thinking.

Shit. I'll cc/bind camp/exp you and I know people will expect it from the rest of SBG. My guildmates know that when I kill some dumpster group 1v3 and then camp all of them retaliation will be attempted at everyone I'm assocoated with.

Tldr: man up

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Melveny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)

If there are extreme circumstances you can message one of our officers who may grant you LnS. However we will deny it also if you have provoked the member. ( shit talking and forum posts come to mind)

I don't recall recieving a tell. I do however see a forum post. Believe me when I say you do not want to follow Lovelys example and forum post, you will make matters hard for yourself and your members. Try a tell next time.

Tbh I mostly gave up on sending Holocaust officers tells when one of them laughed at me for telling them about one of your members training a group of us. I did ask for an officer when Scowl came back into the zone for like the 4th time, but then he left for good so I dropped it.

Did you read this thread? It's not about your members refusing us LnS, when they were trying to CC it was when we died in pve (they weren't even in zone when we died).

Why are you taking issue with me bringing the Holocaust name into this? Yes, the individuals are the ones at fault, but they are tagged Holocaust. They do represent you, and they made some terrible choices here. If you don't like to see Holocaust being made fun of on the forums, maybe you shouldn't recruit people who do things like this.

I'm not talking trash for the sake of it, and I feel I've been very reasonable here.

We'll continue to offer Holocaust lns, as is our policy.

[Snufz]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tbh I mostly gave up on sending Holocaust officers tells when one of them laughed at me for telling them about one of your members training a group of us. I did ask for an officer when Scowl came back into the zone for like the 4th time, but then he left for good so I dropped it.

Did you read this thread? It's not about your members refusing us LnS, when they were trying to CC it was when we died in pve (they weren't even in zone when we died).

Why are you taking issue with me bringing the Holocaust name into this? Yes, the individuals are the ones at fault, but they are tagged Holocaust. They do represent you, and they made some terrible choices here. If you don't like to see Holocaust being made fun of on the forums, maybe you shouldn't recruit people who do things like this.

I'm not talking trash for the sake of it, and I feel I've been very reasonable here.

We'll continue to offer Holocaust lns, as is our policy.

lol. Pvp happened.

[lethdar]

Troriste down x2, ez lvl 50 pvp not so ez?

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troriste down x2, ez lvl 50 pvp not so ez?

grats on 5v1.

brought friends after and you all plugcaust'ed it up. apparently you all dirtnapped after logging in too, hope you like your xp deaths!

[Softcore PK]

I'd like for us all to respect one another a little more than we do, and adopt a set of player-enforced play nice policies. No one has to, of course, and I'm not mad about it. At least I know now what to expect from Holocaust.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd like for us all to respect one another a little more than we do, and adopt a set of player-enforced play nice policies. No one has to, of course, and I'm not mad about it. At least I know now what to expect from Holocaust.

Anti pk guilds are the worst griefers, brings back memories of rallos zek. These player enforced play nice rules are worse than communism. Chaos is the only way!

[Diggles]

Holocaust is like the dara mactire of EQ.

Seriously, there's literally a guild on my SWTOR server just like them, it's kind of odd. Ruin holds up the law, Dara zergs world bosses and wipes

[pickled_heretic]

If this is the same Ruin from WAR, they're a joke.