Dirty Hippies Whining For A Free Lunch

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's just that almost 1/3 of the nation doesn't make enough or plans ahead and pays taxes on their pay check instead of waiting till the end of the year.

or that the standard reduction is high enough to reduce their tax rates and they end up getting money back (me)

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is from 2009:

http://taxprof.typepad.com/files/jct...income-tax.pdf

19% have zero income tax liability, 29% get a refundable credit, and 52% pay positive income liability.

81% pay income taxes; it's just that almost 1/3 of the nation doesn't make enough or plans ahead and pays taxes on their pay check instead of waiting till the end of the year.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/econom...ent/50676912/1

"According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center in Washington, D.C., 46% of tax filers will owe no federal income tax this year. But when you figure in payroll taxes — such as those for Social Security, Medicare and unemployment — more than 80% of tax filers pay some kind of federal tax."

Note that in my post, I had specifically said income tax. The vast majority of workers (they claim 80%) pay some kind of tax like social security, medicare, etc. Not to mention all the taxes placed on payroll that business pay, most of which would end up going to the employee. But for income tax, 46% pay nothing. That doesn't mean they pay on the paycheck and then don't have to pay at the end of the year. It means their total federal income tax liability is 0.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a big difference between being a good person, helping the less fortunate out, and advocating the government take money from Group A to give it to Group B, no matter how much Group B needs it. That is simply dividing up stolen property. It's easy to be generous with other peoples' money. Hell, half of Americans don't pay any income taxes. For them to be so willing to support spreading this tax money is easy, as they have no skin in the game.

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Note that in my post, I had specifically said income tax. The vast majority of workers (they claim 80%) pay some kind of tax like social security, medicare, etc.

So what was the point of your post?

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what was the point of your post?

You do realize the difference of an income tax and a social security or medicare tax, right? In theory, the latter 2 are paid on the understanding that you will reap the benefits of that money in the future. The former is used for all the Robin Hood programs.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realize the difference of an income tax and a social security or medicare tax, right? In theory, the latter 2 are paid on the understanding that you will reap the benefits of that money in the future. The former is used for all the Robin Hood programs.

wait, so i'll be able to draw social security in 40+years?

[Aadill]

I've yet to watch this but the gf said it was good:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235327/

Originally Posted by imdb

Near Penn Station, next to the Amtrak tracks, squatters have been living for years. Marc Singer goes underground to live with them, and films this "family." A dozen or so men and one woman talk about their lives: horrors of childhood, jail time, losing children, being coke-heads. They scavenge, they've built themselves sturdy one-room shacks; they have pets, cook, chat, argue, give each other haircuts. A bucket is their toilet. Leaky overhead pipes are a source of water for showers. They live in virtual darkness. During the filming, Amtrak gives a 30-day eviction notice.

Apparently if there was a documentary about the making of the documentary it would probably be cooler. These people willingly lived off the grid. The director lived underground for 3 months before deciding to film anything. He borrowed a camera on-loan, got some left over film stock from Kodak, and shot the entire movie using the homeless people as the tech crew. They were happy to be where they were... happy to help out with the documentary. They were enthusiastic about sharing their story, about finding means to get electricity.. they had televisions... radio.. couches. They chose to live off the grid and forsake the entire idea of being sent to a homeless shelter because it is too dangerous or live on welfare and take from the system. Not everyone abuses the system.. some don't even want to be on it.

[Tiggles]

Aadil keeps mentioning his girlfriend because hes trying to make tralina jealous.

[Loke]

Amelinda, I just want you to know that even though you're a filthy socialist, we can still be friends <3.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've yet to watch this but the gf said it was good:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235327/



Apparently if there was a documentary about the making of the documentary it would probably be cooler. These people willingly lived off the grid. The director lived underground for 3 months before deciding to film anything. He borrowed a camera on-loan, got some left over film stock from Kodak, and shot the entire movie using the homeless people as the tech crew. They were happy to be where they were... happy to help out with the documentary. They were enthusiastic about sharing their story, about finding means to get electricity.. they had televisions... radio.. couches. They chose to live off the grid and forsake the entire idea of being sent to a homeless shelter because it is too dangerous or live on welfare and take from the system. Not everyone abuses the system.. some don't even want to be on it.

I go to penn station almost daily and those people always beg and ask for change.

off the grid my ass.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I go to penn station almost daily and those people always beg and ask for change.

off the grid my ass.

the federal welfare system, you dolt.