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Old 11-16-2011, 05:45 PM
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This resist system already makes shaman dots retarded op. They used to have a very high resist rate. 70+pr meant it was probably going to take a few casts.

Unlike nukes dots arent partialed as far as I know. Shamans don't need any more help, two dots will already kill pretty much any non healer.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:37 PM
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I wonder how many threads used your exact same argument for blue99.

It's not happening.

You keep shooting down others argument strictly based of the word shaman not beig used. All dot changes refer to "Dots" catagory, not "Shaman Dots" "Necromancer Dots" or "Druid Dots".

Sorry if you consider this unacceptable. Provide actual Sony / verant information stating it's classic and not people's opinion, then we'll talk.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:43 PM
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I wonder how many threads used your exact same argument for blue99.

It's not happening.

You keep shooting down others argument strictly based of the word shaman not beig used. All dot changes refer to "Dots" catagory, not "Shaman Dots" "Necromancer Dots" or "Druid Dots".

Sorry if you consider this unacceptable. Provide actual Sony / verant information stating it's classic and not people's opinion, then we'll talk.
tl;dr DUDE THE EARTH IS FLAT... YOU NEED TO PROVIDE ME WITH EVIDENCE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER

Castle... you now understand how it feels to know the truth and others are just hiding behind the "derp derp must provide concrete evidence that anything before Arpil 12th 2000 at 7:42:34.55559595943s is not sufficient, because I say so"

Clearly none of these trolls know a shaman from their... well, ya

Best of luck trying to convince the morons! You are on your own now... no time for me to waste on these fools; keep fighting the good fight!
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:12 PM
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This resist system already makes shaman dots retarded op. They used to have a very high resist rate. 70+pr meant it was probably going to take a few casts.

Unlike nukes dots arent partialed as far as I know. Shamans don't need any more help, two dots will already kill pretty much any non healer.
and some healers without cures for disease (noble paladins)
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:48 PM
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Who cares if shamans are OP. They're supposed to fucking be

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There may never be another mass-market RPG that is so PvP imbalanced ever again, so enjoy it now.

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Before kunark, level 49-50 shaman were the most powerful PvP class in the game.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:36 PM
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Who cares if shamans are OP. They're supposed to fucking be
not not classic
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:51 PM
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seriously, prima guides are notoriously terrible. i don't really care about the stacking dots or whatever but if someone is trying to use a prima guide as a source for how everquest i just have this to say:

L O L
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:55 PM
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seriously, prima guides are notoriously terrible. i don't really care about the stacking dots or whatever but if someone is trying to use a prima guide as a source for how everquest i just have this to say:

L O L
gotta use 2 book sources and 2 web sources for the works cited bro
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:02 PM
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You keep shooting down others argument strictly based of the word shaman not beig used. All dot changes refer to "Dots" catagory, not "Shaman Dots" "Necromancer Dots" or "Druid Dots".

Sorry if you consider this unacceptable. Provide actual Sony / verant information stating it's classic and not people's opinion, then we'll talk.
Not true. People (here) who weren't shamans using personal anecdotes are obviously less weighty than shamans, but my argument stands completely on unbiased classic observations, not today's players' opinions.

One vague reference that doesn't specifically mention Shamans, nor would since they are the exception, does not refute an overwhelming Tsunami of unbiased eye witness accounts. Quoting, Stroustrap on C++ pointers may have a lot of weight, unless your using it to prove something about loops. Authority means nothing if the quote isn't specific enough. I provided evidence of someone clearly stacking DoTs and using it to calculate mobs HPs and I calculated it myself on Beta. If the spells didn't stack and he didn't realize it, his numbers would be wrong. Not opinion. Fact.

Fix, please.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:09 PM
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Not true. People (here) who weren't shamans using personal anecdotes are obviously less weighty than shamans, but my argument stands completely on unbiased classic observations, not today's players' opinions.

One vague reference that doesn't specifically mention Shamans, nor would since they are the exception, does not refute an overwhelming Tsunami of unbiased eye witness accounts. Quoting, Stroustrap on C++ pointers may have a lot of weight, unless your using it to prove something about loops. Authority means nothing if the quote isn't specific enough. I provided evidence of someone clearly stacking DoTs and using it to calculate mobs HPs and I calculated it myself on Beta. If the spells didn't stack and he didn't realize it, his numbers would be wrong. Not opinion. Fact.

Fix, please.
This has got to be the worst attempt at concluding an argument that I've ever seen.

Look, it is well documented that there was a patch that allowed for multiple dots per line to be applied. It is not documented at all that it was in the game beforehand by any figure of authority. The burden of proof is on you. Calculating HP with dots hasn't the least to do with changing server code to please you.
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