Item recharging is an exploit of game mechanics - Page 5

Brinkman · #1 11-07-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You haven't proven anything. I've reread your original post, and it actually seems to be moving away from recharging items to melees using consumables at all.

This is obviously working as intended, and obviously classic. You would completely undermine entire class/race based tradeskills to remove clickables. Alchemy, Make Poison, and Tinkering become worthless if pure melees aren't allowed to use them.

This is absolutly about recharging items, Consumables i have no problem with at all. As they are CONSUMED, and it takes some sort of effort to replenish them. Vendor Recharging these items makes consupmtion of said clicks a non-factor.

I used melees as an EXAMPLE of how broke item recharging is. They are not supposed to have an endless supply of these abilities, and they gain the most from them. Many of these charged items have effects that no tradeskill can make as well.

I will give you this, you are a world class troll. Keep trying to derail my thread, enjoy talking to yourself.

btw you have not answered my question... here it is once again.

What is your OPINION on Item recharging, to you think VI implimented it and intended it to work the way it does ?

Samoht · #2 11-07-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brinkman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is absolutly about recharging items, Consumables i have no problem with at all. As they are CONSUMED, and it takes some sort of effort to replenish them. Vendor Recharging these items makes consupmtion of said clicks a non-factor.

You do realise that theoretically, a 10-dose spirit of the wolf potion with a single dose on it can be recharged the same way, right?

Brinkman · #3 11-07-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realise that theoretically, a 10-dose spirit of the wolf potion with a single dose on it can be recharged the same way, right?

Right, and the ability to recharge that should be removed as well, not the ability to make them.

You bring up yet another problem with item recharging. It makes doing tradeskills sort of pointless when nobody will buy them from you once they have two in their possesion to recharge on the cheap.

I'm lost to the reason you even brought this up, as it further illustrates my opinion. Item recharging is wrong.

Brinkman · #4 11-07-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the way, where did you find this information? Your original post needs to be updated to either link to or quote the patch notes. Both if you're looking for an A+

It was the October 9th patch of 2003, not september 9th the patch notes run together on Allahkazam if you arnt carefull while scrolling down.

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October 9, 2003
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** Interface **

- Merchants now separate items with different charges in their list.
For example, 9 dose and 10 dose potions will show up as separate items
on the merchant's list. Items with the same amount of charges will be
stacked. NOTE: This will remove the ability to "recharge" items by
selling them to a vendor and buying them back.

Nirgon · #5 11-07-2011, 04:37 PM

Yes, there is a lot to be said of them becoming aware of the bug as it existed and how quickly they were able to fix it.

Brinkman · #6 11-07-2011, 04:43 PM

Answer the question samoht, prove you are not just a troll trying to derail

What is your OPINION on Item recharging, to you think VI implimented it and intended it to work the way it does ?

Brinkman · #7 11-07-2011, 04:55 PM

Found this link searching google for Recharge subjects

http://www.showeq.net/forums/showthr...ic-eq-question

This is from the show-eq forums of all places lol. Here is a quote from one of the replies about the nerf.

"Unfortunately this trick has become far too common knowledge for Verant to ignore"

This pretty much sums up p99 Its rampant here.

I dont think VI or sony ever ignored it, It is my opinion they didnt have the ability or coding to fix it until october 2003. If they did, why would they change prices instead of simply breaking the recharge ability altogether, sooner.

Nirgon · #8 11-07-2011, 05:29 PM

If it was discovered and so rampant sooner, it would have been fixed sooner. The point is it is a total bug that they never intended, classic or otherwise and was hot fixed as quickly as possible.

What we have instead is the issue "bandaided" for one item, necro/sk taps broken in some encounters and a bunch of other items still rechargable without getting a new one.

Just isn't right guys, sorry :/.

Nirgon · #9 11-07-2011, 05:33 PM

How some people choose to ignore that it is a glaring bug, a story of ninja trolling.

Brinkman · #10 11-07-2011, 05:39 PM

Lets not forget they nerfed the heck out of shaman slow agro ( non-classic) here on p99 because people were using the walking sleep click on raid mobs to gain agro. This is also a lynuga item thats rechargable. I think the agro was changed back later, but you get my drift.

IMHO just remove vendor recharging all together, as its just going to bring more problems in the future.