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Old 11-09-2011, 01:53 AM
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So you are saying they should have left in bugs that allowed you to lvl insanely fast and to make crazy plat sitting in a town?

This is the same type of bug.
You saying something is the same type of bug does not make it true.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:03 AM
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You saying something is the same type of bug does not make it true.
You are right, thats why I have stated many , many, times, its my opinion man.

It is also my opinon, that most people without some sort of vested interest ( whatever that may be ) Are seeing the obvious.

Which is that the way vendor recharging works does not make sense, nobody would have ever implimented it that way on purpose, and in many cases, as I continue to provide links, it can create balance problems in the game.

My intent was not to anger anyone, it was to bring a glaring problem to everyones attention. Especially to those that didnt know about it, or havnt thought enough about it.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:19 AM
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as I continue to provide links
Wait a minute. You haven't provided a single shred of evidence that actually backs you up. What links? You're just outright lying now.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:56 AM
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You are right, thats why I have stated many , many, times, its my opinon man.

It is also my opinon, that most people without some sort of vested interest ( whatever that may be ) Are seeing the obvious.

Which is that the way vendor recharging works does not make sense, nobody would have ever implimented it that way on purpose, and in many cases, as I continue to provide links, it can create balance problems in the game.
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Wait a minute. You haven't provided a single shred of evidence that actually backs you up. What links? You're just outright lying now.
Ok what is wrong with you man, did you fail reading comprehension? Did you score A++ in your intentional quoting out of context troll class?

You are calling me a liar and I am really wanting to start using name insults that mean not bright, but I wont fall for it.


When taken in FULL context, its pretty apparent that Im reffering to my very recent post # 194 about The prayers of life being able to be recharged being a balance issue.

Same with my link the the spider net with root charges.

Are you seriously that involved in some kind of internet game of proving someone wrong that you cant even read things and take it in and understand it.

I really appreciate being called a liar by some ignorant forum troll, makes my day.

Go ahead, find something else to quote out of context, im done playing your games.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:51 AM
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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3655

Yeah having 10 of these, creating what is basically 10 group complete heals is ok.

Might be hard to get, but once you get them its always there with charges ( broken )

Bug

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Old 11-09-2011, 03:07 AM
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No, taken in full context, it's obvious that you mean you provided proof for something. Anybody who says otherwise doesn't have any common sense. In reality, all you did was provide a link to a random item on Allakhazam that has charges. Anybody who disagrees is either a troll or really, really stupid. Basically, what you're saying is you found something that's uber rare and would be really ultra expensive to recharge. I would love to go so far as to call someone that does that a moron, but I'll refrain for now.

Man, posting like you is fun! The passive aggressiveness just seeps through my keyboard.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:11 AM
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Maybe if u find an item that would actually break the game because it can be recharged i would agree. until then im gonna disagree and say you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

btw spamming prayers of life is just going to kill your clerics in any raid, way too much threat to be viable.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:27 AM
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Maybe if u find an item that would actually break the game because it can be recharged i would agree. until then im gonna disagree and say you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1933 I guess you want something else as big or bigger. Or that hasn't been addressed ( tho it can stil be recharged , yes for a high price, but it can ) Ive already said I dont claim to know them all, im sure you dont either.. thats half the problem friend. The people abusing these things are not exactly sending tells to gms explaining it.

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btw spamming prayers of life is just going to kill your clerics in any raid, way too much threat to be viable.
I wonder what would happen if your tank spams it instead...
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:40 AM
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The people abusing these things are not exactly sending tells to gms explaining it.
Lol who are these people? If this is as big as of a problem as you make it out to be, it would be very apparent by now.

As far as the tank spamming prayers clicks. it would work a little better, but its just not as efficient as clicking a midnight mallet for threat. A few clerics w/ complete heal and the resists to resist dragon roar should be able to heal anything in the game atm. Plus u dont even need to recharge a mallet u can just do the quest again.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:49 PM
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Lol who are these people? If this is as big as of a problem as you make it out to be, it would be very apparent by now.

As far as the tank spamming prayers clicks. it would work a little better, but its just not as efficient as clicking a midnight mallet for threat. A few clerics w/ complete heal and the resists to resist dragon roar should be able to heal anything in the game atm. Plus u dont even need to recharge a mallet u can just do the quest again.
Honestly, I dont know if its all that apparent now. Thats why I posted this.

There are many charged items that , when looked at on their own seem to not be that big of a deal, but when you combine them with others, or/and amongst are large amount of people. It has the opportunity to possibally make content trivial. One item by itself has been proven this to be true.

What about multiple people, holding multiple clicks. Imagine a raid where all the tanks have snap and nearly permanent agro with mallet and root clicks( root obviously only on immune mobs).

Each group having a person ( preferabally an offtank or tank ) with the ability to complete heal the entire group on call with no mana cost. ( prayers of life ). All damage casters having insta Burst Dps from their Plane and phinny clicks wands Wand of ice, Wand of Conflageration for wiz. Wand of souls for necro, wand of swords mage.

Any player able to charm a mob up to lvl 51 with puppet strings. Maybe not VP but other raids, or even solo.

Multiple people with bladestopper Rune 4 click ( 10 charges ). Agro, basically heals...

This is a just a small sample of what people could have, I am sure I am missing many charged items that would make this even more insane.

The fact these items exist isnt the problem. The fact that once all these items are obtained for the first time, there is almost no secondary investment needed to re-gain the charges. Making the once "hard" decision to use them a non-factor.

Im not saying anyone IS doing this, but its possible. And imo it shouldnt be. replacing strategy, and skillful playing with easymode clicks is not only lame, it makes the entire game trvial. This isnt about taking away one persons fun click roots.
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