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Old 10-26-2011, 05:25 AM
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There is a difference between trying to get every class perfectly balanced in pvp with one another and altering a underline mechanic of the game to avoid being practically unkillable to over half the classes in the game.
Null, what are you talking about dude. In real EQ, casters can always run away from melees and melees can always run away from casters. It's even in terms of escape. People only stick around for fights they actually have a chance of winning. This is why people liked EQ live PvP.

With your changes, casters can escape just as easy as ever, but melees get this lopsided nerf to their survivability and effectiveness with CC spam. You did not fix any "mechanics problem". You just nerfed the shit out of pure melees and to a lesser extent, hybrids.

Seriously, I dare you to play a melee like rogue or monk with this system. Then every time 2 people appear on your screen, if one of them can cast CC spells, you have to take off running to the zone line before they get anywhere near you or die to kiting tactics. How is that a balance improvement?

Kiting other players is about the lamest form of PvP you could possibly add to the game. People would rather have you just flat out quadruple nuke damage and get nuked into the ground in 2 spells than deal with crap like that.

edit: Oh yea, if you're so insistent on making it so classes like bards have a harder time running away, why can't you accomplish this task with stun only? It affects all classes equally and has a reuse timer so it can't be abused nearly as bad as two people spamming snares for free kills on every melee they see.
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:26 PM
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they dont read any of the bickering you know
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:38 PM
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null please roll the server , tired of playing garbage games , i want to play my eq
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:56 PM
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Paladins are going to be gods, btw.

Oh! you trying to run away? root

You trying to cast? stun

You trying to sick pet on me? Root

You trying to cast again? Stun

Wait.. another cast.. Stun

Here... I'll let you cast.. oh nm you're dead.
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:59 PM
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Paladins are going to be gods, btw.

Oh! you trying to run away? root

You trying to cast? stun

You trying to sick pet on me? Root

You trying to cast again? Stun

Wait.. another cast.. Stun

Here... I'll let you cast.. oh nm you're dead.
ya i have no idea why im against it since im playing a dwarf pally and they definately get the biggest boost by having their measley root get partial resisted so they can get a swing on a casters face

i guess i like not having to worry about roots/snares i guess since they can completely destroy you when you fighting more then 1v1

that and its a drastic change from classic eq
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:50 AM
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dwarf pally just add shield of rainbow + MDS = winner
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:51 AM
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thats for 29 pvp ( paw area )

if you want to pvp and win bind outside CB get a dojo axe level 12 - winner
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:58 AM
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Anyone notice how all of cozmo's posts are about lowbie twink pvp and never about pvp at his level? Scrub detected.
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Old 10-26-2011, 07:24 PM
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Anyone notice how all of cozmo's posts are about lowbie twink pvp and never about pvp at his level? Scrub detected.
first off i dont see why you are always so mad harrison

second my comment is related to paladins winning in pvp , which can happen under 2 conditions ( in my opinion )

level 12ish in CB With dojo slam procs

or 29ish with massive dragonclaw , big resists lots of action in both spots

i didnt say at level 50 cause at level 50 i think paladins are shit

now 50 sk thats diff

and stop pretending like i have no pvp experience i was on zek for 11 years and have dozens of chars

coz was 12 for 2 years , 24 for a year , 29 for a year , then i leveled him

i usd him as a pvp alt and my main was max level all the time , early on / classic / kunark / velious i was a war

coz was in
level 12 flowers of happiness
level 24 horsemen of doom
level 29 not representing any tag

at 50/60 my war was in knights of no remorse / revered ( Rallos long standing guilds )

by luclin i had switched to bard , was in spirit of the bamboo , once sleeper was woken i joined wudan and stayed with them till the big fail merge ( thats server merge not guild merge )

Wudan was epic in its time , not to be confused with the pussy bluebie faggot guild wudan on p99 right now which is approximately 6 real wudan people

bard was back burner and wiz went primary , after 2 years of solid raiding i needed a break , wudan was epic but all good things come to an end

Coz was leveled to 70 anguish keyed and i joined defiant , and was NONSTOP pvping VS Pandemonium and hate

big battles not just scraps , port in fights in wall of slaughter , fighting for QVic / Tacvi and guild vs guild battles pre arranged

this lasted 2 years

after that i believe i ended up in ascending dawn on another char , got to 85ish as my max , when they released mercs i left EQ Because they unbalanced pvp horribly

almost all my experience with EQ is endgame , and almost all my best memories.......................................... ...



are lowbie pvp
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Old 10-26-2011, 05:49 AM
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People who think they can fix Everquest always end up ruining the server they're working on. There's a reason the only really succesful emu has been the only one that truly tried to adhere to the classic ideal. With custom features, this will be another small-scale server that most people will stop caring about pretty soon.

People come here to play classic Everquest. If they wanted a game where balance adjustments are being made in pursuit of fairness, they'd play a newer MMORPG with much better facilities. The only reason people play on these classic emu servers is because they're looking for the classic experience. Most of those emu servers failed to provide that either by being too bad at creating it, or by intentionally deviating from it. That's why they were never really succesful.

I can't believe the devs here are making the staggering mistake of going custom when it has been proven by themselves that sticking to classic is the road to success. P99 is the exception to a history of terrible and highly temporary "classic" emus that rarely even lasted a full year. People do not come here looking for "Everquest with some balance changes that suit one guy's opinion on what would be better."

Not only that, but by going custom they're just inviting an endless avalanche of retarded suggestions and demands for every little thing that each player thinks would make the game better. If they don't stick to classic, they can't shut people up. There'll be no end to the ridiculous crap people will demand once you've shown that you're not adhering to classic. We're already seeing this now and the server hasn't even launched yet.
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