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let's have a political discussion
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:34 PM
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http://takebackroc.rocus.org/node/67

Hahahahahahaha.

Not quite "tangible policy reform," but wars can definitely be won in terms of an amalgamation of small victories.

It is just beginning.
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Hahahahahahaha.

Not quite "tangible policy reform," but wars can definitely be won in terms of an amalgamation of small victories.

It is just beginning.
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:38 PM
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and Freddie Mac announcing that they were banning their notorious law firm, Steven J. Baum (the law firm for the Steidel foreclosure and eviction), from handling their cases.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/11/...to-close-down/

heh.
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:39 PM
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PS although government reform may not take place, the pulpit.. the fucking grandstand, soapbox, megaphone, whatever-you-have, is now ON 24/7. The shitty maneuvers of corporate giants and government intervention alike are being called out via mass media that the mainstream media won't or won't dare to report on.
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:40 PM
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Aadill, please do something about this:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11...-indefinitely/
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:43 PM
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Join the ACLU petition to stop this:
https://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocac...subsrc=fixNDAA
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:49 PM
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Actually research is numero uno, always: ‎


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:

specifically http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...aooX7:e464889:


(b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this section is any person as follows:

(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.

(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.

‎(2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined--
(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and
(B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.


I can't actually find section 1031 BUT:

1032 (b) 1 & 2:

(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
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seems pretty vague to me
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:54 PM
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oh yeah it's definitely still possible to point at someone and say, "HE'S ONE OF THEM!" so it's batshit insane, don't get me wrong.... but that particular article does kinda go over the top with it.
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