If you knew our family.. please speak up, Nothing left..

[Nirgon]

The rule is don't do it at all. You can't have someone take a long break while you play both chars. If neither *ever* move at the same time and she watched you for days... I mean this kind of falls into the "my son wants to play" and you get caught deal to me. I mean it wasn't one occasion, it is for *days*.

[Froog]

First of all, thank you to all the people so far that have posted thier support and well wishes. Its greatly appreciated =) And the one or two people that have the opinion that I may be, or am lying, I honeslty respect your view of the situation,I just disagree with you regarding this issue=)

As far as the fewlolz l00k at mez!I g0nna post some randomn a$$ hateful nonsense" board troll remarks, We knew from any previous public board posting, regardless of the content, that posting in the open forums would inevetibly have a few of these gems of wisdom sprinkled in. No harm no foul, just ignored.

Then there are the posts that are unfortunately a lot more harmful as they will distort a remark or sentence, imply something that is complete fiction, or take one sentence/remark out of context, or even put words in other's mouths to try (and unfortunately sometimes succeed) and make pple believe its already a forgone fact;

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rule is don't do it at all. You can't have someone take a long break while you play both chars. If neither *ever* move at the same time and she watched you for days... I mean this kind of falls into the "my son wants to play" and you get caught deal to me. I mean it wasn't one occasion, it is for *days*.

A lot of the time it will come across as a rational viewpoint/opinion, But in reality Its the same hateful bull%^$# as the idiot flamers, just a more intelligent, coherent version of it. These posters put a lot more effort into being vindictive douchebags. generally all you have to do though is take a look at any of their previous posts to realize that all they do is aredently disagree, slam, insult,and flame people for some unfathomable reason. Theres rarely, if ever, a positive remark out of thier mouths. Unfortunately, they can keep up thier hateful ways because people wont or are unable to take the time to closer look at the poster, and put thier comment into perspective.

These posters will convieniently leave out everything else... like the fact that I was the one that said she informed us she was watching for days after we suggested she made a hasty decision.

And that not one single scrap of supporting evidence was offered, just more "my decision is final and thats that" comments. Anyway as far as that goes, I think the "this wasn't a hasty, badly made decision, i have been watching for days' was just a baseless defensive reaction to having her decision questioned.

I could not have been watched for days not moving or whatever on two different characters because it did not happen. Any check of server logs would more then verify that I would think.

I am hoping the powers that be will get around to looking into this at some point, I understand they are pretty busy testing and stuff.

From any interaction i've had with the "management" on this server -they seem pretty on the ball and fair, I can't see them not even granting the dignity of a response.

A lot posts ive read in this thread and others have said that Amelinda has never done anything good for anyone and basically just runs around gleefully abusing the little power she has, punishing people.

Although I apreciate the sentiment of support (thank you =),and lord knows im not her biggest fan, lol, I think that stating she never helps anyone may be an exxageration.. at least i hope it is, or someone has burned out from the thankless masses and needs a break.
In Amelinda's defence, being a guide or GM or even an officer or leader of a guild is generally a thankless job. You can't make everyone happy and most people just remember the negative things and forget the good. Or think that some decision made opposite thier viewpoint was personal and aimed directly at them. Often there is a percieved personal slight or grudge that you have no idea about and never intended and for the next month or so this person will argue every decision you make, regardless of the merit, just out of spite.

This being said, i truely believe our bans were a mistake, and was not personal at all. i don't believe we were targeted.

I think that maybe a hasty opinion was made..(who knows, guides are human, maybe she was just having a bad day) .. and square pegs were hammered into round holes to fit that original opinion.

I am hoping she can put aside whatever defensive reflex is holding her back and take a logical, unbiased look at the situation and facts, or Rogean or any other guide can look at this and come to thier own opinion as well.

I understand the need for public continuity in leadership decisions,...

so again, I will keep quietly checking my pm's and we will keep checking the accounts that were banned to see if they have been reinstated, and we will never bring this up again if we are allowed to come back.
In fact ,we will oddly enough; have a complete memory loss about this if asked, heh, just please, please let us play again =/

Surely someone has had a helpful, positive experience with Amelinda, where she helped someone in need?

[Kevlar]

Froog, do you blame your 7 year old any time you get caught doing something wrong?

"Sorry officer, I was only speeding because my child is incontinent and we have to rush home to the bathroom."

[Froog]

Originally Posted by Froog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then there are the posts that are unfortunately a lot more harmful as they will distort a remark or sentence, imply something that is complete fiction, or take one sentence/remark out of context, or even put words in other's mouths to try (and unfortunately sometimes succeed) and make pple believe its already a forgone fact;

Posted by palemoon;
"You were monitored for a long time before your ban, you got caught. The guide is not out to get you, did not make stuff up to ensnare you, and you have not even "gotten the dignity of a response" from the devs because your case had and has no merit."

You really made my point for me here, almost to the letter.--I specifically said I did not think it was personal and I clearly stated I did NOT think it was a matter of "not getting the dignity of a response", as I know the devs are very busy. Also, the only reason the whole "i was watched for days" point exists is because I mentioned that Amelinda might have knee-jerk stated this defensively in response to her hasty ban being questioned.. yet you are implying you know for a fact it is a forgone reality.

You hilariously immediately made my point about hateful twisting, falsly implying etc all in one post. And after taking the time to read a lot of your previous posts i can only assume you have some rl frustrations or something and just attack people on the boards as maybe some sort of personal venting therapy. Or, maybe you are a hateful pessimistic complainer irl too, /shrug (I hope not, or I truely pity the people in your life for the amount of negativity you must radiate.)



Invarioubly these are the same types of people that will see a broken bottle on the road.watch as over and over again people drive over it and pop thier tires,..then go on a well thought out, planned, articulate condescending crusade of complaining to anyone that will listen, writing letters to editors, seething about the whole wrongness of it, and blaming everything from the thoughtless bastard that left it there, to the absent parents that raised them..

....if you had the resources i would bet good money that you would take the time and effort to try and collect DNA or fingerprint the thing so you could gleefully and selfrightousely confront them personally to berate and belittle them.. when the right thing to do the whole time would have simply been take 20 seconds to walk a few steps and pick the bottle up.

As i do not want this thread to be another one hijacked by flamers, I won't be wasting any more energy on replying to baseless hateful remarks from the flamers or from the more articulate fact smashers, I couldnt resist on this one though as it was such a blatant, glaring example of the point I just made, lol.

[Hailto]

Protip: OP doesn't actually have kids, the "kids" he is referring to are his characters. Its pretty obvious you are guilty, give it up, you got caught, boxing ruins the server, deal with it.

Edit: I still give you props for the thread title though.

[Roanoke]

Originally Posted by Froog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As i do not want this thread to be another one hijacked by flamers, I won't be wasting any more energy on replying to baseless hateful remarks from the flamers or from the more articulate fact smashers, I couldnt resist on this one though as it was such a blatant, glaring example of the point I just made, lol.

Too late.

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that some Barack Obama hash?

Ecstasy, I believe.

[visage]

Originally Posted by Froog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First of all, thank you to all the people so far that have posted thier support and well wishes. Its greatly appreciated =) And the one or two people that have the opinion that I may be, or am lying, I honeslty respect your view of the situation,I just disagree with you regarding this issue=)

As far as the fewlolz l00k at mez!I g0nna post some randomn a$$ hateful nonsense" board troll remarks, We knew from any previous public board posting, regardless of the content, that posting in the open forums would inevetibly have a few of these gems of wisdom sprinkled in. No harm no foul, just ignored.

Then there are the posts that are unfortunately a lot more harmful as they will distort a remark or sentence, imply something that is complete fiction, or take one sentence/remark out of context, or even put words in other's mouths to try (and unfortunately sometimes succeed) and make pple believe its already a forgone fact;

A lot of the time it will come across as a rational viewpoint/opinion, But in reality Its the same hateful bull%^$# as the idiot flamers, just a more intelligent, coherent version of it. These posters put a lot more effort into being vindictive douchebags. generally all you have to do though is take a look at any of their previous posts to realize that all they do is aredently disagree, slam, insult,and flame people for some unfathomable reason. Theres rarely, if ever, a positive remark out of thier mouths. Unfortunately, they can keep up thier hateful ways because people wont or are unable to take the time to closer look at the poster, and put thier comment into perspective.

These posters will convieniently leave out everything else... like the fact that I was the one that said she informed us she was watching for days after we suggested she made a hasty decision.

And that not one single scrap of supporting evidence was offered, just more "my decision is final and thats that" comments. Anyway as far as that goes, I think the "this wasn't a hasty, badly made decision, i have been watching for days' was just a baseless defensive reaction to having her decision questioned.

I could not have been watched for days not moving or whatever on two different characters because it did not happen. Any check of server logs would more then verify that I would think.

I am hoping the powers that be will get around to looking into this at some point, I understand they are pretty busy testing and stuff.

From any interaction i've had with the "management" on this server -they seem pretty on the ball and fair, I can't see them not even granting the dignity of a response.

A lot posts ive read in this thread and others have said that Amelinda has never done anything good for anyone and basically just runs around gleefully abusing the little power she has, punishing people.

Although I apreciate the sentiment of support (thank you =),and lord knows im not her biggest fan, lol, I think that stating she never helps anyone may be an exxageration.. at least i hope it is, or someone has burned out from the thankless masses and needs a break.
In Amelinda's defence, being a guide or GM or even an officer or leader of a guild is generally a thankless job. You can't make everyone happy and most people just remember the negative things and forget the good. Or think that some decision made opposite thier viewpoint was personal and aimed directly at them. Often there is a percieved personal slight or grudge that you have no idea about and never intended and for the next month or so this person will argue every decision you make, regardless of the merit, just out of spite.

This being said, i truely believe our bans were a mistake, and was not personal at all. i don't believe we were targeted.

I think that maybe a hasty opinion was made..(who knows, guides are human, maybe she was just having a bad day) .. and square pegs were hammered into round holes to fit that original opinion.

I am hoping she can put aside whatever defensive reflex is holding her back and take a logical, unbiased look at the situation and facts, or Rogean or any other guide can look at this and come to thier own opinion as well.

I understand the need for public continuity in leadership decisions,...

so again, I will keep quietly checking my pm's and we will keep checking the accounts that were banned to see if they have been reinstated, and we will never bring this up again if we are allowed to come back.
In fact ,we will oddly enough; have a complete memory loss about this if asked, heh, just please, please let us play again =/

Surely someone has had a helpful, positive experience with Amelinda, where she helped someone in need?

I so wish to christ Rogean he forgives you of your sins

[Holysmoke]

Originally Posted by Froog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol our familys two main accounts were banned

Doesn't sound like you are genuinely upset by what happened, considering you are laughing about it... and the fact that you go on to say "lol" 13 more times in your original post....

...Man I thought lol was something we type when we are "laughing out loud" at something?!! Oh how times have changed...

[Kabilos]

lol...

[Curmudgen]

To the OP: you have made your statement, why are you still posting? Hopefully you posted also in the appropriate forum....it either will be ignored or you will contacted. You made a post here and it will be ignored or acted upon by the devs that have shown in the past that they do read in here.

Can you not now just let it alone? Do you have an urge to respond to everyone who can do absolutely nothing to help you?

I don't get it. And please don't respond to this post